AoE + Leech utterly buggered in 1.1
" For an incinerate build that is dealing very low damage/hit and can trivially gain 82% fire resist? Or a Firestorm build throwing AoE attacks every .18 seconds for a few hundred per hit? And both builds are likely to run AA on top of that 82% resist, taking no damage at all. A few threads up is an incinerate build complaining about LL not stacking. He's hitting each mob 35 times per second. That works on to 245 hps/mob, instant heal, with the ability to completely negate reflected damage via secondary skills and passives. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Artanthos#0192 on Mar 4, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
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^i know, but there is no lightning armor and blizzard armor.
So it will be all fire (due to AA existence) or nothing with the new reflect mechanics. Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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" This is a legitimate complaint, and one that should be addressed. But now we are talking skills, not mechanics. Skills can be added mid-league. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
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" How is it 35 times per second? For years i searched for deep truths. A thousand revelations. At the very edge...the ability to think itself dissolves away.Thinking in human language is the problem. Any separation from 'the whole truth' is incomplete.My incomplete concepts may add to your 'whole truth', accept it or think about it
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" He's most likely shotgunning with GMP. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
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yes, that's while hitting a mob 5 times with GMP (aka the mob is in melee range)
when i'm hitting a pack of mobs very few of them are getting hit that much, most are only getting hit by 1-2 streams... however no matter how many mobs I hit I will only be leeching back the HP from one singlular, teeny, tiny, incinerate at a time If I get vaal pact and take the 60% leech penalty I'll be leeching more than without vaal pact due to these retarded mechanics IGN: OldManBalls (Warbands) Last edited by demivion#2965 on Mar 4, 2014, 10:36:32 AM
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" Which is why I was advocating Cybil's Paw for incinerate builds. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Artanthos#0192 on Mar 4, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
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Well at least fire spell has Arctic Armor, lmp/gmp spell in other department are fucked. Take example of GMP Freezing Pulse. On 1 target only, since the 5 projectiles hit almost simultaneously, leech don't stack, so you're leeching 8.8% with rate of 1 out of 5 proj. On the other hand, all 5 projectiles reflect back at you for 18% each.
Thus assuming 75% cold res, the ratio of (leech/dmg reflect after mitigation) per interval of time is (8.8)/(18*5/4) = 39%. Utterly horrible lol. So even if you're just hitting 1 target, you will always lose life in an ele reflect map. Not to mention if you're hitting more than 1 mob, at almost the same time with freezing pulse proj speed. Leech rate stays almost the same but reflect dmg 3-fold for just 3 mob. Surely die, no way about it, unless you can somehow keep Saph Flask up always. Even then going from 75->85 res is still a net lose of life even with max life leech gem. Last edited by 0versky#1706 on Mar 4, 2014, 11:05:09 AM
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" 82% resist should be considered the baseline for any elemental spell caster. Between the relocation of Elemental Adaptation and Purity, it is trivial to obtain. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
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" Which is no different from how it works currently. It's just that those tiny moments of Leech aren't stacking in duration, but ticking down simultaneously. You might notice against Bosses, but your Damage per Hit should be pretty impressive there regardless due to how Incinerate works. That More Damage is pretty good. Cast Speed will also make your Leeching more efficient (less time between Hits). Maybe give that a shot some time. Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Mar 4, 2014, 11:15:16 AM
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