Self-found league: no shared stash!

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almostdead wrote:

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Soepkieken wrote:

Then it's not self-found anymore.

Sorry, who did find that item then?

Other characters, not the character he is currently playing. It is a valid argument. :)

A self-found league over just playing self-found now is mandatory, because self-found characters want to compete with eachother on the ranking list, achievements, show-off and pvp. As self-found has so many consequences on character build and development, it will be a very interesting league, very different from the other leagues. We won't see a RF build spoiling pvp, or even a max block/spellblock, because it's just too gear depended.

About the stash: true, it is YOU who found the item but not YOUR CHARACTER.
If we are consequent about the specifics of self-found, we have to go all the way. Starting a fresh character but with a stash full of nice things doesn't feel like self-found. That stash is like a free shop.

SELFFOUND BUILD = THIS CHARACTER PLAYS ONLY WITH WHAT DROPPED WHEN PLAYING THIS CHARACTER.

True self-found playing is not checking what you can get from elsewhere (e.g. other characters you played before), but purely play with what drops when you play.

People who like shared stash can just play standard league.

This is my First Post here on the forums, and I just want to say. I like the idea of this!

No offense soepkieken, but you are bringing up a suggestion made 2/3 months ago exactly like you describe it here.

And the dev's said "no".

I agree there is merit to the notion of playing self-found and comparing yourself to other self-found characters.

In order to do this you could for example start a guild, that plays by those given rules and create a personal ladder.

I play a iron-man sort of mode atm, and i don't need any separate league to do this, therefore i am an example of why GGG will not implement this. It is already possible within the current league's. just without the epeen comparisons.

I've got almost zero interest in a league that defines self found this way, and I expect this disparity in the way people define SF is one of the major difficulties in any game instituting an SF ladder.

My definition of self found is very simple. It was found by me. I don't know where all the character bound/no crafting/no partying stuff comes from.

We need more "self-touch league" threads.

Saying we can do self-found already now if we want is a bit cheap to me.

If there was no hardcore/Nemesis yet and people would ask for it, I could say they can already pley hardcore in standard league by just deleting their character immediately when it dies.

If GGG created leagues, self-found is an obvious and much desired one.

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Robert_Paulson wrote:

We need more "self-touch league" threads.

I'll play a marauder.

A terrible idea within a terrible idea.

You self-found spammers must be fans of inception.

Hello ,
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/324242
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/752320
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/759115
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/746607
Cheers ,
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