Why GGG_Neon promote the PERMA freeze mobs and bosses?

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reboticon wrote:

These vids are impressive, and it's very impressive you can kill these bosses so fast with spec throw, but to say touch of god is easily avoidable in desync situations when you are using spec throw is a bit different than saying its easy when you are melee. I'm not arguing with your point, btw, I don't really think dom is overtuned, but I also think desync can easily end a melee on a 78 palace.

Nevermind him...

Nice double post on Reddit and the Forums. Get mad desperate kid.

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Redzor wrote:

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wisdorin wrote:

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xahanort wrote:

Get mad bro. But seriously, it's working as intended. Sure, it's op. Sure, it needs a nerf. You can't complain when they use something as intended that's broken, that what being a good player is all about, finding what's broken and using it for your advantage.

yep good players always find exploits, abuse them to nullify the challange.../s

Clever use of game mechanics. Challenge is to find synergies and min-max them. When too many people start to copy, nerfs come and next round starts.

Yep, that's the whole point of having complex gameplay. Thank god someone gets it.

I still don't get why there are no mods like "cannot be frozen/ignited/shocked". It would nerf those builds enough since they wouldn't be 100% universal. Builds who entirely rely on sth like ignite would need a 2nd skill, nothing to whine about.

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ConanTheGamebarian wrote:

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Pibadi wrote:

Just curios, are you guys a kidding me? Did you see how the TOP10 players playing on maps? ALL FREEZE, ALL! Did you see the Dominus perma freeze on 78 Palace? Just WOW! On Onlsaught we have a broken RF + shavronne's + icespear totem = permafreez, on Nemisis we have a freeze mine and trap+eleprolif+coldsnap. What next? I remember how they nerfed permastun Kripp's build, but what now? Look at this images:

Spoiler

- this is how you balanced your game GGG? Nice end-game content.

this game SHOULD have ways players can, in your view, abuse it.

In a complex game, there should be complex options, and the ABILITY to maximize any potential spell for your max benefit.

This seems fine to me irl, if you don't enjoy permafreeze, you aren't forced to play that way.

PoE IS GREAT because they don't take the blizzard way of heavy handed nerfs just because a build is super efficient or perceived as uber op.

This would be fine and 100% correct if PoE didn't need to maintain an economy. Unfortunately it does, and these broken OP builds end up causing massive inflation in the economy because it allows people to grind content much easier than they should

I would completely agree with you if PoE was designed as conventional aRPGS are designed, that is, they aren't balanced or designed around an economy, however with PoE and D3 this is not the case. They are forced to normalize their builds and prevent them from being too OP

@deteego: the economy issue is not about someone clearing maps fast, its Dominus multiboxing and RMT

I think OP made his point through: nuclear launch detected

its op but still, all freezer are dieing

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Redzor wrote:

Clever use of game mechanics. Challenge is to find synergies and min-max them. When too many people start to copy, nerfs come and next round starts.

yep this is the main point ppl are missing here. what will the HC ppl do when their freeze mine dont work no more?? i imagine alot of these players using it arent the best at dps...

So what! You were able to perma freeze in Diablo 3 and no one complained and that game is alot easier. I think you should be able to perma freeze in this game considering there's so many monsters and bosses are just way too strong. Its just part of the game deal with it if someone chooses they want monsters to have 5 times more life with 2 people in their party so they can perma freeze that's the huge sacrifice they are making in my opinion. Also works to their advantage for boss kills which is good since most people just skip high level map bosses since this game is so broken as far as damage with certain bosses? Palace Boss can kill you in 1-2 hits? While General Gravacious on Shipyard map just tickles you when you stand in all his shit LOL

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Lichalfred wrote:

@deteego: the economy issue is not about someone clearing maps fast, its Dominus multiboxing and RMT

Actually its all of these issues. Clearing content way too efficiently causes inflation, and whether this is due to multi-boxing, RMT, or OP builds is irrelevant

Economic inflation is agnostic as to what methods cause the inflation, if too much things of desired value are put into the economy with very little price behind it, it will cause inflation