The obvious micro transaction cash grab?

The thread is getting to that length where expecting people to read the lot is somewhat unrealistic.

Is the point still the choice by GGG to price smaller packages of GGGold at a slight loss below $20 and a slight gain above that, with the actual amounts being somewhat awkward for single purchases either way?
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
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Elynole wrote:
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Baksteen wrote:
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Elynole wrote:
52 pages of rabble over 4 GGGCoins, amazing.


Clearly if you would've taken the time to read it's not about that.


I've read through enough of the comments to be well informed that most of them are audacious. It amuses me to see the community state that GGG is being unfair, or is cheating players out of money when the game is completely free. If you want something "cool" to show off then bite the bullet and pay for it.

GGG announced multiple times that supporter packs were going off sale come OB, and that what you got in the supporter packs may not be equivilant to what you'd pay for when it went to public consumer pricing. The supporter packs have been up for grabs since March 2012. Those that supported the game early to help with the development of finishing act 3 got to reap the benefits - those that didn't are now paying set consumer pricing. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this.

It does not hurt the individual one way or another if they buy or do not buy from the item shop, im sure there are a good amount of supporters and fans of the game that wouldn't stoop so low as to accuse GGG of such Hackett, going as far as saying some of the things that have been stated in this thread. These people will continue supporting the game.

Maybe everyone here should form a unity and start boycotting and fighting warehouse stores for consumer goods because it's obviously unfair if you buy in bulk and get a discount. Oh noes!


It has two sides on it, you've read the bad comments on this thread hehe. The point is that some people find it ''odd'' that if you want something that is priced at 50 coins you need to pay $10 instead of $5. Look i find it odd myself too cause i think how GGG prices their stuff is in their hands but it would be better to update to a system in my other post so everyone could be happy. Everyone has a different perspective and money income. But GGG NEEDS the income from their shop so it does hurt them if they lose potential buyers. But if they change it it is entirely to them. and i agree on you on the supporter packs.
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Asail wrote:
As for the ethical portion. What GGG meant by ethical micro-transactions is the fact that these micro-transactions dont give you power in game. It doesn't matter how many stash tabs or character tabs you have, you aren't killing monsters faster and your character isn't doing more damage. It might give you an advantage in say storing up lots of good loot, but it doesn't make the loot any better, nor does it give your character extra stats.

I'd like to quote this because Asail speaks the truth and yeah, I do understand what GGG means by "ethical microtransactions" in the way that they use it, yet I still called their model unethical, because it is in the way that I used it :)

So just to be clear on my stand: Yes, I understand what GGG meant by "ethical" and they have kept their word in that regard. On the other hand, I still think that the new pricing scheme of point packages is dubious.

(ok I'll just use the word dubious instead of unethical from now on :p)
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Elynole wrote:
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Baksteen wrote:
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Elynole wrote:
52 pages of rabble over 4 GGGCoins, amazing.


Clearly if you would've taken the time to read it's not about that.


I've read through enough of the comments to be well informed that most of them are audacious.

Obviously you haven't read through enough...
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heisenbergman wrote:
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Jaya5602 wrote:
Ill admit I dont know what Im talking about in advance, but, wouldnt it be better if they just put an actual dollar amount on items rather than have coins or whatever? No one would complain about how many coins you get for x amount of dollars and GGG still gets money. Unless theres some kind of transaction fee they have to pay that would make them lose money that way?

I'm guessing it has something to do with how their finances are setup. Like, maybe they couldn't offer small $1 transactions and could only earn money from as small as $5 transactions, because with the overhead/administrative/processing costs, they might not earn money from transactions as small as $1... so they're forced to do the point system that they do.

I still think they should offer their packages in round numbers though. No idea why they changed it from a round number to an awkward figure that ends in '6'

Thats probably right, they probably wouldnt see much of that dollar after all is said and done.

It does seem kinda fishy that anyone would sell points in such odd numbers but Ill hold judgment until someone from GGG explains it which im hoping they will. Maybe they plan to have the 5 dollar pack only have 40 points but they are giving out more as a sale. No idea.
Maybe they should charge you $5 for the game and give you 46 points to spend in the shop.

Would that make all the whiners happy?

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Baksteen wrote:


It has two sides on it, you've read the bad comments on this thread hehe. The point is that some people find it ''odd'' that if you want something that is priced at 50 coins you need to pay $10 instead of $5. Look i find it odd myself too cause i think how GGG prices their stuff is in their hands but it would be better to update to a system in my other post so everyone could be happy. Everyone has a different perspective and money income. But GGG NEEDS the income from their shop so it does hurt them if they lose potential buyers. But if they change it it is entirely to them. and i agree on you on the supporter packs.


The other side would be:

"Wow, I bought a 5 dollar pack, got 46 points and bought an item for only 20 points. I have 26 more points left over, what a deal!"

When arguing the opposite, this is what it comes out to be. So you can see why the argument over lower costs is absurd.

For those that want shop items so badly that they would complain about such a trivial thing as a 5 or 10 dollar difference, chances are that their want for that item is so bad and they have so little self restraint that eventually they're going to buy more than 20 dollars worth of stuff anyways. Self control is a fun concept.
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syzmic wrote:
Maybe they should charge you $5 for the game and give you 46 points to spend in the shop.

Would that make all the whiners happy?


Not what this topic is about.
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syzmic wrote:
Maybe they should charge you $5 for the game and give you 46 points to spend in the shop.

Would that make all the whiners happy?




I love that word. Anyone who voices discontent, to a spoiled person, is a whiner. We're sorry that we don't have enough money to waste 4.50 of it spending 10$ to get a 5$ purchase.
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Elynole wrote:


The other side would be:

"Wow, I bought a 5 dollar pack, got 46 points and bought an item for only 20 points. I have 26 more points left over, what a deal!"

When arguing the opposite, this is what it comes out to be. So you can see why the argument over lower costs is absurd.

For those that want shop items so badly that they would complain about such a trivial thing as a 5 or 10 dollar difference, chances are that their want for that item is so bad and they have so little self restraint that eventually they're going to buy more than 20 dollars worth of stuff anyways. Self control is a fun concept.


Uhmm.. no. Yesterday the price for the stash tab pack was $15... today it's $20. All that changed was an arbitrary title from "closed" beta to "open" beta

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