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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
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ashamanbg wrote:
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Epsilon2012 wrote:
Higher hits of damage are reduced less by armor...
...50% Reduction makes you take 50 damage from a 100 damage hit...but like 9000 from a 9500 hit...(not actual math)
Then let calculate 1k armour vs 100 life.
Teorethical.
With good nods, 1k armour add u at 4k armor, and 100 life add up to 500 life.
The is one boss did u 10k, with 1k armour u will received.
Player one 4k life and 14k armour
Player two 4.5k life and 10k armour.
Player one take reduction of ~60%, that mean he will take 4k dps.
Player too take reduction of ~50%, that mean he will take 5k dps.
Player three - 12k armour and 4250 life.
Player three take reduction of ~55%, that mean he will take 4500 dps.
All players died :D
But there are no 10k dmg in the game i think.
What? Where do you get these reduction values?
If you have 12k armour, you will reduce a 1000 hit to 500. That's 50% of a 1000 hit, at 12k armour. So to reduce say, a 5k hit to 50%, you're going to need 60k armour. Do you think you can keep up with that?
Armour is good, but only if it's cheap, because it relies on life, scales poorly and isn't 100% general.
What, what:) With mine 17k armour i reduces about 70%.
It is easy to calculation. The best or armour come from chest.
Calculate mine 2200 armour chest - i am 17k amour with it and 4k life. And calculate ohter 1k, 100life amour, i am 12k amour and 4500 life with it.
SO?
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:20:20 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
What, what:) With mine 17k armour i reduces about 70%.
It is easy to calculation. The best or armour come from chest.
Calculate mine 2200 armour chest - i am 17k amour with it and 4k life. And calculate ohter 1k, 100life amour, i am 12k amour and 4500 life with it.
SO?
Except you don;t have 70% damage reduction.
You have 70% damage reduction against a white enemy.
35% damage reduction against blue/yellow.
10% damage reduction against orange (maybe).
and 0% damage reduction against elemental (you know... aside from resists).
So... trade 10% of your life... For 2% damage reduction. Good job.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Nov 26, 2013, 1:22:58 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
What, what:) With mine 17k armour i reduces about 70%.
It is easy to calculation. The best or armour come from chest.
Calculate mine 2200 armour chest - i am 17k amour with it and 4k life. And calculate ohter 1k, 100life amour, i am 12k amour and 4500 life with it.
SO?
Except you don;t have 70% damage reduction.
You have 70% damage reduction against a white enemy.
35% damage reduction against blue/yellow.
10% damage reduction against orange (maybe).
and 0% damage reduction against elemental (you know... aside from resists).
So... trade 10% of your life... For 2% damage reduction. Good job.
Any proof????
Prove it, coz i feel the bif difference in example when fighting Blacksmith with 10k or 15 k armour. And this is a orange... boss
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:26:26 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
What, what:) With mine 17k armour i reduces about 70%.
It is easy to calculation. The best or armour come from chest.
Calculate mine 2200 armour chest - i am 17k amour with it and 4k life. And calculate ohter 1k, 100life amour, i am 12k amour and 4500 life with it.
SO?
You are right, it is easy to calculate: armour/(armour+12*damage). Now plug in some values for damage and your armour there to get a good idea of what's actually happening.
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Posted byDeletedon Nov 26, 2013, 1:27:18 PM
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Not sure about that the OP knows how damage reduction from armor gets calculated.
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Posted bySpysong192#7559on Nov 26, 2013, 1:29:32 PM
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
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ashamanbg wrote:
What, what:) With mine 17k armour i reduces about 70%.
It is easy to calculation. The best or armour come from chest.
Calculate mine 2200 armour chest - i am 17k amour with it and 4k life. And calculate ohter 1k, 100life amour, i am 12k amour and 4500 life with it.
SO?
You are right, it is easy to calculate: armour/(armour+12*damage). Now plug in some values for damage and your armour there to get a good idea of what's actually happening.
What u mean???
10k armor/(10k+12*1000)? = 10k/22k=? what u talking man
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:30:04 PM
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You can't just say "stack resists" and ignore elemental damage, either. Both the high life and low life characters are going to cap resists, but the high life character is going to shrug off status effects far better because of how those mechanics are tied to HP.
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Posted bySciz#2966on Nov 26, 2013, 1:34:04 PM
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You can't just say "stack resists" and ignore elemental damage, either. Both the high life and low life characters are going to cap resists, but the high life character is going to shrug off status effects far better because of how those mechanics are tied to HP.
How high? Without resist ur 4k or 6k life must be one hitted by magic.
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:37:27 PM
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Armor doesn't provide a flat scaling of damage reduction. It is very effective vs small hits, but becomes less effective as single damage numbers become larger.
Think of it this way: If you're wearing an iron suit of armor, you could stand around being shot by pellet guns all day. But if someone shoots a cannonball at you, that iron armor doesn't do shit to prevent your entire body from getting crushed.
Your tooltip says your armor is giving you 70% damage reduction, but that's only from small hits.
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Posted byJahIthBer89#0880on Nov 26, 2013, 1:37:37 PM
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Read this before asking more question. Short yet easy to understand.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/65595
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Posted byRozerozz#1493on Nov 26, 2013, 1:38:33 PM
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