Armour vs. life
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I dont understand the obsession some people have with armor, are white trash packs really that difficult where high armor is needed? Some life regen with life leech handles trash totally fine. Im happy if i can hit 3k armor then go straight evasion, from what information I have gathered on defenses in this game apparently evading > armor by a looooong shot on things that can actually kill you like large boss hits, since evasion prevents them from stringing several big hits in a row compared to getting clobbered repeatedly with high armor. In practice my 9k armor iron reflexes duelist gets chunked by mobs like kole, while my 3000 armor 3000 evasion templar shrugs kole off like hes nothing. I will never ever spec iron reflexes again, crazy high armor seems like a noob trap, balancing all defenses together with high life works much better what from I have experienced.
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" 9k armour is not high. Armour is good you just have to stack a lot of it, really a lot, I'm talking 250% from passives, with determination and IR on top. 20k+ with auras is the level where armour starts to really help against big hits. Like almost everything in this game, you want either get the bare minimum from the most efficient sources, or stack the shit out of it. |
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Dont make me laugh. Armor does not work against elemental damage at all.
This game at end game is all about maps and the temples that dominus and piety live in or that boring docks. These areas I mentioned are flooded with elemental damage monsters that will drain your armor based character away like a toilet bowl flush. There is a reason why Kripp (if you dont even know who that is I have nothing to say) makes characters with 12000hp for his hardcore characters instead of 20k armor ones. There is also a reason why PEOPLE PAY 100 EXALTS FOR LEGACY KAOMS HEART. It s all about the crazy and messed up elemental damage this game has, not to forget the special effects that come along with elemental damage such as shock. |
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" or Aegis Aurora Not saying that armor can mitigate elemental damage, which they cannot, but that is why you these shields to improve your resistance to elemental damage. 82 maxed res can make a bigger difference than the normal 75 maxed res. Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game. - raics, 06.08.2016 Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Nov 27, 2013, 12:47:00 AM
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Except armor reduces less damage against larger hits, so against hard hitting rares and bosses, it's effectiveness is probably 10% of what you think it is. Armor is worthless against chaos damage. Armor is worthless against elemental damage. Life is effective against everything. You can not replace it. Stop trying to.
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" It is redicolous, all know that armour not work agains magic... What even u all talk about it? So, ok if u run only Dominus then yes u dont need high armour. All points was about that i preffer chest with 1k armour and zero life instead of zero armour and 100 life. Or 2k armour against 1k armour woth 100 life. Has i say i have a lot bods for both life and amour and 100 life gimme just 350 life, but 2k armour gimme 10k with aura. SO its simple then - 350 life VS 10k armour. Thats it. Last edited by ashamanbg#2873 on Nov 27, 2013, 6:51:17 AM
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" I would also prefer a chest with 1k armour and zero life rather than zero armour and 100 life, but only if I happened to have zero armour and lots of life already. |
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Only thing that works 100% of time is LIFE or ES, armor helps in small amounts, Block helps alot but isnt idiot facetank proof and the same goes for evasion. 0 armor with potion is enough for practically anything if you arent trying to facetank KOLE with isnt a smart move ever. Only way to make defensive stats work as well as life and es is to stack them all, get 75% shield block+70% change to evade+30% change to dodge+10k armor and then you just might be ably to facetank everything EXEPT you still need at least 5k hp pool or es to survive the one lucky hit that is getting through all dodges and blocks. AND those numbers are impossible to get.
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dont know if ny1 already posted it but stacking to much armour is bad...when u hit 15k+armour it becomes alot harder to achieve an extra 1% damage reduction so its important to balance the 2 as its not a case of wich ones better...but balancing both
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Still messing up primary and secondary defenses. Life/ES are nothing without secondary defensive mechanics - AR/EVA/block. A player won't care if he has 10k life/es, but a white beetle hits him for 300-400 dmg, without a miss, isn't it? The proportions of primary/secondary defense values are set by the player and these determine if his build is viable or not, arpg genre is about that.
I will disagree with OP, as the primary defenses (life/es) have to be the priority, not secondary ones. I think he doesn't know how armor actually works. This is a buff © 2016
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