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ashamanbg wrote:
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AhlenS wrote:
Armor and life aren't mutually exclusive like most defense stats. They go well with each other.
Sure, ballance is better, but look my test, u can test too.
Amour is better than life, in example i will prefer 2k armour and zero life than 1k armour with 100 life.
And if you do that you're an absolute idiot.
1k Armour is like 84 HP against a physical hit that does real damage.
Life is so much better than armour it's not even funny.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Nov 26, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
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Life also pairs well with regeneration. If you have enough regeneration, even a hit that does 50% of your health can be overcome.
Think of it like:
Life and regeneration make up your cake, while armor and resistance are the delicious frosting that goes on top.
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Posted byAhlenS#2758on Nov 26, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
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Epsilon2012 wrote:
Higher hits of damage are reduced less by armor...
...50% Reduction makes you take 50 damage from a 100 damage hit...but like 9000 from a 9500 hit...(not actual math)
Then let calculate 1k armour vs 100 life.
Teorethical.
With good nods, 1k armour add u at 4k armor, and 100 life add up to 500 life.
The is one boss did u 10k, with 1k armour u will received.
Player one 4k life and 14k armour
Player two 4.5k life and 10k armour.
Player one take reduction of ~60%, that mean he will take 4k dps.
Player too take reduction of ~50%, that mean he will take 5k dps.
Player three - 12k armour and 4250 life.
Player three take reduction of ~55%, that mean he will take 4500 dps.
All players died :D
But there are no 10k dmg in the game i think.
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
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AhlenS wrote:
Life also pairs well with regeneration. If you have enough regeneration, even a hit that does 50% of your health can be overcome.
Think of it like:
Life and regeneration make up your cake, while armor and resistance are the delicious frosting that goes on top.
And? 5% life regen from 4.5k is 450/s. from 4k is 400/s and i dounbt u can have 5% life regen, so think about it.
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:00:02 PM
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Autocthon wrote:
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ashamanbg wrote:
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AhlenS wrote:
Armor and life aren't mutually exclusive like most defense stats. They go well with each other.
Sure, ballance is better, but look my test, u can test too.
Amour is better than life, in example i will prefer 2k armour and zero life than 1k armour with 100 life.
And if you do that you're an absolute idiot.
1k Armour is like 84 HP against a physical hit that does real damage.
Life is so much better than armour it's not even funny.
Or maybe u r the complated idi.
With nods dude 1k armour is 4k real armour.
84life is just about 250-300 life.
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:01:19 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
Or maybe u r the complated idi.
With nods dude 1k armour is 4k real armour.
84life is just about 250-300 life.
Fun fact: 84 damage reduction is 84 damage reduction. That life is still more absorption against any real hit than the armour is.
12k armour nis +1k max health for OHKO. You don't need to know more than that when deciding whether you want armour or health.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Nov 26, 2013, 1:06:12 PM
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IMO
Primary source of defense - Life and ES
Secondary form of defense - Armor and Evasion
You mix a primary with a secondary to have a good defense, and you cant compare them. ie You wont go anywhere in end game with 700 hp and 40k armor.
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Posted byziggro#7495on Nov 26, 2013, 1:08:59 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
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Epsilon2012 wrote:
Higher hits of damage are reduced less by armor...
...50% Reduction makes you take 50 damage from a 100 damage hit...but like 9000 from a 9500 hit...(not actual math)
Then let calculate 1k armour vs 100 life.
Teorethical.
With good nods, 1k armour add u at 4k armor, and 100 life add up to 500 life.
The is one boss did u 10k, with 1k armour u will received.
Player one 4k life and 14k armour
Player two 4.5k life and 10k armour.
Player one take reduction of ~60%, that mean he will take 4k dps.
Player too take reduction of ~50%, that mean he will take 5k dps.
Player three - 12k armour and 4250 life.
Player three take reduction of ~55%, that mean he will take 4500 dps.
All players died :D
But there are no 10k dmg in the game i think.
What? Where do you get these reduction values?
If you have 12k armour, you will reduce a 1000 hit to 500. That's 50% of a 1000 hit, at 12k armour. So to reduce say, a 5k hit to 50%, you're going to need 60k armour. Do you think you can keep up with that?
Armour is good, but only if it's cheap, because it relies on life, scales poorly and isn't 100% general.
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Posted byDeletedon Nov 26, 2013, 1:13:47 PM
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Autocthon wrote:
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ashamanbg wrote:
Or maybe u r the complated idi.
With nods dude 1k armour is 4k real armour.
84life is just about 250-300 life.
Fun fact: 84 damage reduction is 84 damage reduction. That life is still more absorption against any real hit than the armour is.
12k armour nis +1k max health for OHKO. You don't need to know more than that when deciding whether you want armour or health.
Its rofl, maybe u r low resist player.
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Posted byashamanbg#2873on Nov 26, 2013, 1:14:51 PM
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ashamanbg wrote:
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Autocthon wrote:
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ashamanbg wrote:
Or maybe u r the complated idi.
With nods dude 1k armour is 4k real armour.
84life is just about 250-300 life.
Fun fact: 84 damage reduction is 84 damage reduction. That life is still more absorption against any real hit than the armour is.
12k armour nis +1k max health for OHKO. You don't need to know more than that when deciding whether you want armour or health.
Its rofl, maybe u r low resist player.
the more armour you have, the less more armour is worth. Life on the other hand is a linear scale. Guess which one is way more effective to stack.
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Nov 26, 2013, 1:17:18 PM
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