Orb Candy, Diablo 3, and Sending a Message

My goodness, it took a day or so but suddenly the PoE forums seem a lot less horrible to participate in. Now, if my students are turning from ignorance to the light of reason and compassion that would just be icing on the cake.

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Xowl wrote:

In the US, I know some people who get annoyed enough at it that they don't play. They also don't read 1970s softcore fantasy crap. It's pretty embarrassing to have it in the game.

I haven't actually played Path of Exile in 10 months as I've waited for this issue to be dealt with. I was told by Chris Wilson himself this was being looked into back then, and waited patiently for something, anything to be done. It would literally take an artist 5 minutes to remove the statues from the orbs and could have been pushed with any weekly update. Obviously it is not a priority and that makes me sad.

I was very angry with Blizzard after the crapfest that was Diablo 3 at launch (and as it remains today), but I'd rather give them more money than support a game with a UI like this one.

PS: nice job emphasizing your new class's perfect white breasts in all the promo art, stay classy GGG.

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Reashu wrote:

Apart from that... sexism is a far more rampant problem than wanton violence. You can argue that the latter is worse when it happens, but that is rare enough that it would seem like all of these violent video games don't really have anything to do with it. Sexism, in comparison, is very common, and it's easier to fathom a link between growing up with sexist media and being a sexist, than to imagine one between growing up with GTA and being a mass murdering drug lord (do you get to be a drug lord in GTA? Replace with something appropriate if not). That's why it's more offensive.

1) It seems to me at this moment wanton violence is an equally large problem in the world, especially the third world, as "offensive" portrayal of women in the media. Further, what of the portrayal of violence in the media? Is violence not glorified to the same degree as objectified women, perhaps more?

2) I imagine we would be far more effective dealing with real sexual objectification, as in rape, and real violence, as in murder and war, before focusing on portrayals in media which would only serve to deceive us from reality. Presumably the suggested changes in media would be to affect culture - or are we merely discussing appeasing self righteous indignation? If the former I suspect we will have no luck, people won't stop being sexual and violent because they no longer see it in the media. Rape and pillage are as human as failure. If the latter I suspect it's somewhat futile as (1) if we start addressing the grievances of the thin-skinned (for example those that find gore offensive) we will never finish and (2) it will compromise the game's artistic integrity, bothering a great deal of supporters.

I would agree with such a revision if there was significant evidence the aesthetic sacrifice did not offset any sort of financial benefit. In which case I would like real evidence that there is a financial benefit. I may be wrong, but unlike LoL the genre, aesthetic, and overall motifs of POE don't seem as attractive to casual and girl gamers the way LoL might. Again, I may be wrong here.

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Xowl wrote:

The Vallejo-ish chained up women on the interface are the first thing noticed by most people I show the game to. A few of them don't want the game played around their daughters because of it.

Hi daughter, slaughtering innocents and genocides/torture = okay.

almost naked boobies? That is WRONG.

Sometimes I question other gamers' parenting skills....

Ganrao, I'll quote something said in the rockpapershotgun link you provided:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11/22/blizzard-on-heroes-of-the-storm-female-designs-in-mobas/


If you were complaining about games like Tera Online or Aion, it would make some sense.
There, female characters are indeed oversexualized, to the point of having bikini armor that barely protects any vital areas.

If you were complaining about all the naked statues in the world, then it might make some sense.

If you were complaining about adult movie industry that incites kidnapping and selling women, then it might make some sense.

But to complain about Orb Candy in a game?

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Nurvus wrote:

Quoting some random commenter not actually involved in the article

You, my student, like so many before you, are completely overlooking that this time the specific complaint is not about nudity in itself (AKA ass titties ass ass titties everywhere). The complaint is about the depiction of sex slaves, as in, people bound in chains and reduced to existing to provide sexual gratification for an owner or owners. It is offensive to feature two sex slaves in the UI for no good reason and alienates lots of potential players. It costs GGG money from lost customers and grief dealing with people like me who care a lot more than they do (apparently, still waiting on some kind of actual action) about women bringing negative attention to their game. I promise you a lot of people have sworn off PoE because I've pointed this problem out to them. It is ok though, soon enough I will just give up and let this sexist game go on its dark age way and forget it exists. Enjoy your time with me, student, for it is fleeting.

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I'll be honest, I've got a lot of extremely mean spirited and aggressive things I'd like to say to you (OP and any who agree with him/her/it/whatever), but since we're using a discussion medium that explicitly states we aren't allowed to say things like that, I'll keep my response relatively civil and to the point:

Do the UI elements around the health/mana globes have giant evil men ravaging them or something that I just can't see? Do you have a bigger screen resolution than me which allows you to see the rest of the horrible sex slave scenes that I can't?

Because, let's be 100% honest and unbiased here, there is nothing about the UI elements in question that would lead any rational minded person to the thought that "this chick is a rape victim and GGG are sexist assholes who think rape as acceptable."

Then again, I'm probably just not as "enlightened" as you, right?