Orb Candy, Diablo 3, and Sending a Message

edit: double post

@Ganrao:
I really don't know why you dare insulting others. Maybe you think you have the intellectual high ground, but I can guarantee you that that's not the case.

We all live in free and liberal societies. And here everyone can do whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't hurt others or their property. And looking at pictures of chained women is part of this freedom.

Nobody needs a self-righteous teacher, who thinks he has to save the world by forbidding and removing anything that he thinks is not appropriate for seeing or liking. We had and have that at the world, it's called censorship and can be found at dictatorships.

If someone decides for himself, that women can be objectified, bound up or something like that, then that's perfectly in his rights. And he may even find likeminded women. As long as someone doesn't force women to do anything against their will I don't care how high he values them.

By the way: I showed your post and the art in question to my GF and she laughed.

And now get back under your bridge, troll.

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protip: your being raided by reddit's SJW community.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSGaming/comments/1rdrfm/orb_candy_diablo_3_and_sending_a_message_final/

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Utah wrote:

protip: your being raided by reddit's SJW community.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSGaming/comments/1rdrfm/orb_candy_diablo_3_and_sending_a_message_final/

Yeah, because this did not happen before.
Well, at least the population of suggestion knows better now.

I prefer Russel's lockrail in the last thread
over the arguing in this thread here.


Edit:
I love how he promised it as a "final plea".

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Nightmare90 wrote:

I love how he promised it as a "final plea".

It is, because if they don't fix their shit I'm just going to buy Reaper of Souls and never look back.

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Utah wrote:

protip: your being raided by reddit's SJW community.

I'm flattered you think that is what is going on. They're just looking at the shitposters here and sighing about the shape humanity is in, not participating in a "raid". I doubt more than 1 or 2 people from reddit has bothered posting here.

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OrtForShort wrote:

You simply want to impose your own worldview on everyone playing the game because you can't handle a little UI art. Well, guess what? You're being a whiny bitch.

I doubt you'd even care if it was MEN chained to the globes instead of women, right?

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Antor2k1 wrote:

I've a pretty good idea about how this whole "remove slavegirls" thing came to be:
OP significant other is a full fledged women right junkie (or he is, which would be pretty hilarious if you ask me), she saw OP play the game and got NUTS.

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Hrishi wrote:

So I never noticed these sex slaves until I read this topic and re-opened PoE to see them. I feel like you're getting worked up over nothing if I didn't even notice it playing for months and months.

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TRV wrote:

GGG, Do not cave to stupid demands from people like this. Theres a reason they are like that, because it looks good.

OP if you really truly are offended, please crawl back under your rock.

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Ouroboros226 wrote:

On the topic of the "sex slaves" or whaterver you want to call it, make one male and one female - problem solved. Not that there is a problem to begin with. Grow a hide please :P

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Zedda wrote:

You can play Hello Kitty Online if you are offended [...]

I honestly don't even look at the orb candy when playing, or even in town, and cannot even remember when I last noticed it. However knowing it's there [...] is encouraging to me.

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Veta321 wrote:

making the game more appealing to women, at the expense of artistic integrity

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Morbyn wrote:

I'll be honest, I've got a lot of extremely mean spirited and aggressive things I'd like to say to you (OP and any who agree with him/her/it/whatever)

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twilightfall wrote:

The UI was one of the first things I noticed, and I was especially pleased with the posture of the women on the orbs, I love seeing women in chains & I don't think the UI could get any better.[...]
I love seeing women chained up and if they're removed from the UI I'll throw an even bigger tantrum than you.

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markus7 wrote:

Leave your liberal, leftist, politically correct, FEMINIST CRAP outside PoE, where it already festers the western world.

Cultural Marxism is not allowed here.

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Simaimch wrote:

And here everyone can do whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't hurt others or their property.[...] If someone decides for himself, that women can be objectified, bound up or something like that, then that's perfectly in his rights.

Sexism is a cultural phenomenon, a matter of ideology and teachable world-view, in a way which violence is not; exposure to violent media, such as videogames, does not appear to cause violent behavior - I think we can all agree to that. I feel pretty comfortable stating that no one in this thread has thrown on a burlap sack, picked up a tree branch and started beating homeless people, regardless of what exists in the game.

But here we have a topic devoted to an allegedly sexist design decision - the game's narrative-less inclusion of naked women chained to the UI - and the thread is filled with sexism and dismissal. It really begs the question: if we didn't live in a culture of rampant casual sexism, would any of the responses I quoted exist? If it weren't acceptable - perhaps even expected to depict women in a degrading way as a signifier of "maturity," would there be posters who clearly equate being offended with being a woman?

How is it an acceptable response "go play hello kitty online"? Or "I like seeing women in chains"? These are directly proving the point that the UI is degrading: you can't honestly expect to defend something as "not sexist" by being sexist.

And that's the problem: the UI is a continuation of this idea that causal sexism, degrading and objectifying individuals because of their sex is okay. That sentiment is echoed over and over again in this thread: "if you're offended, it's because you're a woman" clearly means that the UI is offensive to women, while accomplishing the magnificent irony of being dismissive of all dissenting men.

There do seem to be some good faith (or close to it) arguments for keeping the UI: it's a deliberate design choice meant to be part of a dark/gothic fantasy setting. But that raises the question: why does it have to be naked women? What about enemies from the game? An exile and a gemling? A squid and a zombie?

If the UI is such a small element of the game, what harm is there in changing it to make it better for players (and potential players) who aren't comfortable with it? "It doesn't matter, leave it alone" implies that it does matter to you. If you don't care, why can't you just accept that some people do?

And yes, it's a free society, etc., and the developers should be allowed to design the UI however they choose. I don't really disagree with that argument. But players should also be allowed to voice their problems with the UI (and their support of it!), without being subjected to this level of abuse.

i think the entire discussion about this is somewhat stupid.

simply the posters point that its disgracefull and stuff because it exists in the real world. yeah. and? your the guy that wants to bann shooters aswell? because war actually happens and is a terrible thing aswell? how could you really say that this ui PROMOTES sexism?

@preposter:

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There do seem to be some good faith (or close to it) arguments for keeping the UI: it's a deliberate design choice meant to be part of a dark/gothic fantasy setting. But that raises the question: why does it have to be naked women? What about enemies from the game? An exile and a gemling? A squid and a zombie?

it shows 2 exiles. scion is basicly the same thing as her. and i guess dominus and the general do have some fun from now and then ;)

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And that's the problem: the UI is a continuation of this idea that causal sexism, degrading and objectifying individuals because of their sex is okay. That sentiment is echoed over and over again in this thread: "if you're offended, it's because you're a woman" clearly means that the UI is offensive to women, while accomplishing the magnificent irony of being dismissive of all dissenting men.

showing something doesnt mean promoting it.

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im playing this game since closed beta and have a LOT of time invested in here (just as i have in D3) but this is actually the first time that i or my gf hear someone being mad about the women in the UI
and no i whouldnt care if you whould change it. to be honest i prolly whouldnt even notice l0l