Haste aura is grossly underpowered
" determination is amazing. it gives MORE armor. ign = ultrahiangle Last edited by ultrahiangle#4938 on Nov 20, 2013, 4:31:47 PM
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" Yep it's why I specified on itself. On pure stats Grace is vastly superior most of the time but Determination has its niche use. Still I don't like much the fact they balance Determination on the low end because of its possible overpowered combos (granite flask + Determination comes to mind being usable by anyone). " Doesn't countradict my numbers. Grace gives more armor with IR up to 4k base. 4k base is awfully high. Last edited by SmilingCat#6681 on Nov 20, 2013, 4:41:45 PM
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" determination , is the aura you use in conjunction with granite flasks. which you should be using all the time. most of the time though determination would be used by spell casters that do not need to use offensive auras like hatred anger or wrath. haste is crap , for 60% reserved 15% is garbage now it it were 40$ reserved it would be balanced. |
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4k base armor is much easier to achieve with a shield. Grace doesn't scale granite flasks to ridiculous levels, allowing you to tank even massive hits from bosses with upwards of 40k armor.
Haste's cast speed is much better than the attack speed bonus. It's fairly good for minions. Noone said every aura had to be great for anything. Just a page ago some guy was thrashing the elemental auras, where in a high attack speed elemental build they do *way* more than hatred. |
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i have ~2k base armor after passives with no auras.
9.5k with grace + Iron reflexes. 20k with determination. Determination is reducing the damage i take by about 20-30% Mind over matter would be better if I had a mana pool to support it, and used a life build ofc. @Topic Haste is amazing when aura buffed as well. Close to 30% increased attack/cast speed for everything nearby. The move speed is handy too. |
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" wrong, you dont need 4k base you just need 4k (% increased still scale with determination), which make it far easier to obtain and for endgame pretty much always the better choice between grace and determination for armour (with ir offcourse) grace is only better with shitty gear and no % inc. armour (or % inc. eva with ir) guess my point is, determination is one of the best yet most undervalued auras especially compared to grace vitality is nice for summoners (but still not quite there for its cost even for summoners) its absolutely useless for pretty much everyone else haste is also bad for the investment, and even though its slightly better for casters its still not good enough to ever want instead of a defensive aura IMO ign HC: Arnold_Schwarzeneger
ign Nemesis: Svamp_i_fugen |
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haste has always been underwhelming with the other auras around
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Imagine there were no att/cast speed passives, mods on items or frenzy. Haste aura would be godly good. But since we all have this haste aura makes no sense.
What can never be lent or earned?
Somewhat, that devours everyone and everything: A tree that rush. A bird that sings. It eat bones and smite the hardest stones. Masticate every sword. Shatters every shrine. It defeat mighty kings and carry mountains on lightly wings. What am i? |
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" Assume you got X base armor+evade from non-grace sources and assume the player has Iron Reflexes, then for lv20 Grace and lv20 Determnation to be equally useful following must hold: X + 2016 = X*1.51 => X = 3953 It doesn't matter if factor M is multiplied on both sides of the equation, the result is still X = 3953 This message was delivered by GGG defence force. Last edited by mazul#2568 on Nov 20, 2013, 6:24:04 PM
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" how? "Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy? There is no such thing, and never has been. And the reason
is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms." |
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