Full Respec......

Everytime i stumble over one of these Threads I wonder: ""How long do you think PoE will not have Passive Tree changes?"

IMO at least with every act a revamp of the passive tree WILL happen which results in free respecc.
As content is added i expect that to happen about once very 12 to 15 months. And this will be pretty fine with me.
If you need respeccs more often, just trade for orb of regrets - I think they will be a very stable currency after a certain time. I will hoard all of them just for profit :-P

well with every game, there will be different fan base for every major decision such as this. if GGG decide to stay with no full respec, then there will be a set of fans who are for the decision, and other fans that would shy away from the game eventually. the question is what is eventually the best decision for PoE. full respec can stimulate more cash shop purchase. whether that is sufficient to offset the people who view it as P2W, is another discussion. they will lose players either way.

personally i feel the game growth will be healthier with full respec because it allows people to try out different builds w/o having to start over. I will be starting out as a necro build. but once i pass the lvl 60 mark, i may be more interested in creating a hybrid build what include more DPS. if i'm not allowed to respec, i'd have to start over from scratch. that gets old after awhile. so the chances of me looking other alternative games would be higher. i would personally be less likely to stick around if i know every time i want to try a new build i'll have to start over...

w/o respec also discourage people from trying different builds. the penalty is to start over. so people will simply sit back and wait for the "perfect build" w/o trying out other possible options.

Problem is, some builds are super easy to beat the game with ( necro), while others are more efficient at farming and PvP.

If you wish to have a PvP build, which tends to be hard level, since its focus is on single target, if you could switch to this build automatically after beating it with say a necro, no build is ever rewarded for getting to where they're at. Every build is exactly the same. A level.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Problem is, some builds are super easy to beat the game with ( necro), while others are more efficient at farming and PvP.

If you wish to have a PvP build, which tends to be hard level, since its focus is on single target, if you could switch to this build automatically after beating it with say a necro, no build is ever rewarded for getting to where they're at. Every build is exactly the same. A level.

So again, as has also been suggested numerous times, put a limit to when you can use/buy the respec. Only below level 40 would be a fine forme, and yes, some people will then abuse it to breeze through to level 40 and then change to their 'real' build. But i think that is a 'price' worth paying in order to give a huge group of players a higher change of enjoying the game and staying with it.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Problem is, some builds are super easy to beat the game with ( necro), while others are more efficient at farming and PvP.

If you wish to have a PvP build, which tends to be hard level, since its focus is on single target, if you could switch to this build automatically after beating it with say a necro, no build is ever rewarded for getting to where they're at. Every build is exactly the same. A level.

IF someone is willing to pay $50 JUST so they can switch to a PVP build... i say why not. it's not like they are going to switch back and forth between necro and pvp build on a daily basis... and even if they DO switch back and forth, it's helping GGG at $50 a shot.

they are NOT gaining additional passives when they switch. they are simply rearranging the passives they've earned.

people need to remember, respec has never been "cheap" in any of the F2P games. the primary limiting factor of abuse for respec is the cost of that convenience.

People here seem to want to impose consequences on other players for absolutely no reason. So what if its easy to "complete" the game with one build and then swap to another? Does that mean that you would accuse every high level player with a certain build of paying to win? How would you know if they did it with a respec or not? And if you can't even tell, then how are they paying to win? This person has gained no observable advantage from his monetary expenditure, yet somehow he is paying to win?

Winning can't be all that great then.

If you can purchase respecs then you can sell all your orbs of regret for a hefty amount of in-game wealth. pay2win, never going to happen.

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pneuma wrote:

If you can purchase respecs then you can sell all your orbs of regret for a hefty amount of in-game wealth. pay2win, never going to happen.

That's the only way I would accept purchasable respecs being pay to win.

They have said time and again there will be no full respecs. Lots of features in this game, and the style of it in general, will make it less popular with a lot of people. I don't think they care. And I'm glad, because that vision and integrity is what made a great game. Hopefully down the line that doesn't change.