Orb of Fusing and general currency problems

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StillSingle wrote:

Good points on the economy Slayer.

What do you think about the lack of linear progression through the different orbs. ie iscroll < pscroll < transmute < alt < etc, where some don't fit into the progression?

I hear what you mean about enemies not being "richer". But other game still give you bigger currency drops for later difficulties AND better item drops AND better XP. POE only seems to give the latter two.

Also with POE, gear reqs are so complex (I'm not saying its bad, it just is) that after you get something good from the beginning of Ruthless onward, it is very very hard to get an upgrade without crafting. Therefore, I don't feel rewared by "better" gear drops, because they're not.

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StillSingle wrote:

POE decided that crafting will be its "gold" sink. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't be getting more copious amounts of "gold" aka orbs when I clear higher levels.

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lethal_papercut wrote:

I personally believe there is a lot more scope for orbs & I am hoping that what we currently have is not all we ever have.

I would like to see the addition of more super rare but also super useful orbs along the lines of the mirror.

Things like:

An orb that gives an item its max sockets

An orb that fuses all sockets on an item

An orb that changes any base item into an unique

An orb that increases Ilevel

An orb that removes the effects of a regal or ex

An orb that is 5x armour scrap or whetstone

An orb that adds lightning/fire/cold/bleeding damage to a weapon

Actual useful orbs that you know are going to do something cool & not the randomness we see from lower level crafting orbs.

These orbs should be super rare, something that not everyone finds & when you do find them you feel like a champ.

With the addition of these style orbs I would like to see the general crafting orbs come down in rarity as to match their actual usefulness.

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0nin wrote:

I've only read like half this thread but it seems to have turned into a compilation for various forms of criticism on the current currency system, so I'll take the opportunity to re-voice an opinion I have.


I hate using jewelers, fusings, and to a lesser extent chromatics, in the current system. These three orbs differ from the rest of the flock in one significant aspect: their randomness is binary. Either you get exactly what you want (6 sockets, 4L, RRRGGB socket colours), or you don't. This as opposed to Alchs, Chaos, Alterations, Regals, Divines and Exalts, which all have a clear degree of success: 700 ES on chest is not the best roll, but at my current gear level it's acceptable.

The common quoted statistic is that it costs on average 300 Fusings to get a 6L. Everything that's not a 6L is just a waste of orbs. It probably takes more than 300 Chaos to get 1k+ ES on chest. But I can choose to lower that requirement by aiming for less, and this will not affect the viability of my build, unlike being forced to settle for 5L instead of 6L.

A suggestion I made in the past is to allow Fusings and Chromatics to be applied to a socket, rather than to a whole item, which would then reroll the colour/links of that item only. Of course this means it'd take a lot fewer Fusings to get a 6L, but in return you can just make Fusings more rare, make 6S more rare, etc. I just feel it'd make using Fusings more rewarding, as there are several successful steps to reach the end, as opposed to 299 failures and 1 success.



Also, Regals are far too rare if you don't (ab)use the 3 same name recipe, which I personally don't cause I don't have 40 stash tabs.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Wouldn't these just be traded? This is why exalts are so rare, it is the only item in the game to FOR SURE make a great item better.

Also,I cannot stand the idea of an orb that guarantees a 6S or 6L, unless Chris once said, cost 1500 fusings.

Any orb that is rare and guarantees effects which just be traded by those who can afford it.