WHY DON'T YOU LIKE TO TRADE?
" cause 90% of human beings are fucking moronic deep down to the core and should have been left on there mothers back instead of being conceived. the end. IGN: Blackroset
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" Just where its meant to be? So 50 days of farming crafting materials should provide precisely nothing useful unless you use them to trade instead? Yea, sure. IGN
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"I would have exactly the same opinion on it if they called it the Honey Boo Boo League; you might think names matter, but I don't. Self-Found League is kind of like this: "Wow, look at these numbers. Unemployment sure is a problem around here." "That makes me wonder, what do all those unemployed people do to get by?" "Well, for the most part they get on welfare." "In that case, the solution is to end all welfare programs immediately! Let's start a crusade." In other words, it looks at what people do because of game mechanics — engage heavily in trading — and completely ignores the actual source of the problem. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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" I think you are really, really confused about why people want a self found league and what they want it to achieve. Those things you want fixed often do need to be fixed, but those things have NOTHING to do with why a lot of people want SFL. To clarify, if there were NO changes made except the league being self found, id still play it over the trading ones. The ENTIRE reason I think it would be good is because its self found. Its not trying to solve any other problem, the problem is 'trade exists' and there is only one way to fix that problem. By removing the ability to trade. IGN Last edited by MierenEronaile#4239 on Oct 15, 2013, 3:29:53 AM
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"To be fair to me, I'm not more confused about what the SFL proponents want than the SFL proponents themselves. To be totally honest, if that's all you wanted — the benefit of trading stripped from you, no other changes whatsoever — my response would be a solid "whatever." No opposition at all. Why? Because that's what a league should be: you add an additional challenge, and you don't add any benefits. It works for Hardcore, and it could work here too. The only reason I wouldn't say "yes" is because I'd have no desire to play in such a league myself. But you know as well as I do that many, if not most, proponents of the league want increased drop rates. And you know as well as I do that they want them for the exact reason I gave: they are trying to fix a system they see as broken. They are trying to use the wrong solution. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Oct 15, 2013, 3:34:11 AM
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Well yea, a lot do. I also think most of those things have problems, and often your solutions to them have actually been quite good imo.. The current leagues and all new ones could benefit from solutions to these problems and a SFL would not truly solve them I agree.
But that doesnt stop me from wanting a league where me and everyone else did it all on our own. I wouldnt OBJECT to increased rates for it, but id settle for it without it. IGN
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" Yes, yes you are. Perhaps collectively there is some disagreement about how it would be implemented, but I and many others are quite certain about what we want. I've already articulated my reasons, I guess you can just choose to ignore them though. |
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" You aren't everyone, get over yourself. |
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i just spent two hours trying to sell my fusings at the standard Fusing to Chaos rate and was otherwise unsuccessful. I decided to quit when two players harassed me and called me a scammer for trying to sell at the standard rate. I typically don't have issues with trading in games but this makes me want to play with chat turned off and by myself which will ultimately lead to me quitting because of how unrewarding and slow level 40+ is. That is besides the fact that people routinely harass and stalk others on the game which makes me want to quit. GGG seriously needs to clean up trading and overall the social part of the game before it gets too out of hand.
Last edited by Magnetic_n0rth#1625 on Oct 15, 2013, 3:54:42 AM
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Why don't I like to trade?
Because I play an arpg. What's the "a" stand for? Action. Grinding, fighting, adrenaline rushes when you bite off more than you can chew... That's why I play. I just stopped playing my facebreaker build. It just hit 67. I realized it was probably going to take me around eight hours to convert my currency into exalts and then trade them for a bringer of rain. I've got, if I'm patient enough to not get ridiculous ratios, the four to eight ex worth of currency on me. But it's easily going to take longer to get that one item than it took me to level from 55 to 67. That's pathetic, boring, and piss poor design. People said auction house was bad in D3 because it led to pay to win. You know what it also led to? Not having to dick around for four hours every five levels spamming "WTB! WTB!" Last edited by Sayyid#1990 on Oct 15, 2013, 4:03:30 AM
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