so what was the Open Beta exactly for?

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exorzist wrote:

open beta was just there to "grab" more money for same stuff as in closed beta and a lot of people fell into this money-grabbing trick by GGG ...

and the OP is right. they called it open beta but what system, mechanic which was broken during closed beta and open beta did they fix? nothing ... they created more and are going to produce even more fucked up mechanics in 1.0 ...

so yeah, instead of fixing known issues to guarantee a stable version they go ahead and introduce new shit which wasnt tested at all by a larger audience .. lol

instead of release GGG should just call it open beta 2.0 or something and please
dont forget to introduce new supporter packs with identical content so the idiots can buy the same stuff over and over again ....

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sidtherat wrote:

so.. open beta (BETA) ends

it ends with massive release of (mostly interesting) HUGE balance, design, mechanics and gameplay changes

changes that were not tested, not validated and have not known consequences when faced with 10k players doing eveything to abuse the shit out of them (trigger gems with sporkers..

this will be 1.0 version - a completely new game. not tested. not balanced. nothing. (to all people thinking that few weeks/even months of internal testing is worth anything.. LOL!)

so exactly what was this open beta (BETA) for?

- for one: to get money. and this is perfectly understandable, fair and ok with me.
- to test and balance game out. but.. but wait - in 1.0 there will be some changes that destroy all current balance equations (trigger gems being one obvious example). all balance knowledge, all statistical data, everything gathered in open beta is worthless now.

why do i care?

because GGG is a coward company afraid of fixing/removing stuff that is already there - bullshit uniques, broken keystones/combos, etc. why they are the way they are - i do not know but probably they fear the outburst of rage of RMTers that profit on such bullshit but this is not the point

once stuff is in the game - esp introduced in 1.0 (i have problems calling it release as most people that wanted to try it already did that. they are still playing or left and wont be coming back) it stays in the game. no matter how bullshit this is. broken builds will stay broken (spork, CI vs Life), broken items will stay broken (list is too long), broken skills will stay broken (multistrike being mandatory for melee is so fun..).

and given that game will be released without any wide-scale tests.. there will be plenty of such crap

so what was the point of open beta again? to balance the game before release so the 'first impression isnt overpowered-bullshit-fest'? or was it only for the money?

oh is the desync fixed? or is the smoke mine the 'fix' melee players were waiting for like.. from the start?

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arbait_333 wrote:

oh I did not know they went the Blizz way.... if that is so I will stop using anything that they make... we all know what happened to D3, and D3 release was the BETA... and a really bad one at that.. here we seem to have the same problem

What problem would that be exactly? And 'Blizz way'? What exactly do you mean by that...not being snarky, asking a serious question here. Are you talking about how Diablo III deviated so much from the foundations of Diablo II overtime and that what was presented wasn't a good game because the core mechanics and what not were flawed after those changes were made? Changes that were made long before they were introduced into the public Beta? Again, trying to understand where you're coming from with this and how you're saying 'Blizz way' to correlate the comparison I made to what sidtherat said.

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AusterlitZ wrote:

Why don't people that do nothing but whine,just pack their shit and leave?Seriously,you don't like it,leave!

1.Have any of you seen patchnotes for 1.0?NO,so why don't you shut up,and save your bitching for 3 weeks from now.How do you know they are not nerfing CI?How do you know they are not balancing skills and uniques?That's right,you don't,you just pulled this thread out of your ass...

2.This is a F2P game,meaning "open beta" is not for testing,but a soft launch (that's why there's no wipe)

Number 1 was spot on. Nunber 2 is stupid and I wish uninformed jackasses would quit perpetuating that idiodic line of rasoning. It really is stupid and people need to ralize this.

Goddamnit quote is all fucked up and I can't fix it on my phone

if you want,i can search for quotes from Chris,saying that open beta is actually launch.Have you heard of many betas where people are allowed to spend money on MTX or keep their characters for launch?I've seen a few cases like this,all of them are f2p games,why do you think the term "soft launch" was invented?

ok you win there was not once in the 8 months of open beta, bug fixes, new content, major balance changes or anything at all that generally apllies to the beta tag . It was all a big money grab by greedy men with mustaches sitting in the back of the room laughing at us fools. Absolute nothing happened in 8 months, NOTHING its a scam by the right wing conspiricay is what it is, GGG also shot JFK, planned 9\11 and wrote Obama Care because thats just how evil they are.

none of that crap you said is relevant or changes the fact that the game is in beta and has undergone many changes and has seen tons of bug fixes. You know the things people do when a game is n beta. god you people are dumb.

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Magnicon2 wrote:

A lot of people seem to be confused. In the F2P market, "open beta" is actually the release of the game. They use this tactic to release the game before its ready so they can start making money. Its how its been done for years.

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sidtherat wrote:

what my gripe is - why they have not released trigger gems like 2-3weeks ago so we can abuse the fuck of them so they can be fixed and be at least somewhat balanced on release?

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mark1030 wrote:

Did ya ever think that maybe these "broken" things are working as intended? Just because you say something is broken doesn't mean it is. Maybe it's supposed to be like that. Is chess broken because a pawn can turn into a queen?