so what was the Open Beta exactly for?

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Kochise wrote:

So tired of the overpowered unique bitchfest... it's complain if they suck and complain if they are great. My god which is it. I have none of the best unique and I don't care. Wtf is wrong with people. Stop worrying about the Jones' s.

This guy gets it. Keepin up with the Jones' is exactly what I've been saying. This isn't LoL, why does everyone care so much about the supposedly OP uniques (sorry, I don't think any of them are that OP..except maybe taker..just a little bit)? Why do you care what someone else has, it doesn't effect you unless you're playing PvP. I love having them in the game, its something to be excited about finding. Its the carrot on the stick, and lord knows this game carries one hell of a big stick. If you think they're so bad, don't use them. Simple as that. Same thing with the supposedly OP builds.

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GotzYourBike wrote:

You misunderstand what GGG means by balance.

The game must always be in a state of chaos because otherwise there would be no reason to do anything.

Open beta was
* a stress test
* additional tests (not all explicitly stated)
* etc.

In a perfectly balanced game, nothing feels like it's worth doing, with new gems and such, people have a feeling that they want to experiment, try to break the game. If everything was fair and set in stone, like League of Legends, it wouldn't be a good ARPG, see Diablo 3.

Should have quoted you too, spot on my friend.

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Wittgenstein wrote:

They never lied. CB packs ended, OB packs started. You can't buy kiwis (cb) you can't buy the OB pet, and you can't buy the effects.

there is more in those packs then just a kiwi or other pet. almost all other features of the closed beta packs are included in the open beta packs (points, t-shirt, poster, forum title, name in credits, create an item, etc). and at the time where only closed beta packs were available they said that those packs were unique and only obtainable during closed beta.

but now the open beta packs has 8 or 9 things exactly like in closed beta. to me, thats a lie by GGG .. they broke their promise and made the closed beta supporters look like dumbasses ...

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exorzist wrote:

and made the closed beta supporters look like dumbasses ...

Some managed that all on their own.

I bought both types of packs. Yes there were some things that were in both, but I'm quite looking forward to receiving the things I didn't get in my CB pack. And the in-game additions are nice too.

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exorzist wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

They never lied. CB packs ended, OB packs started. You can't buy kiwis (cb) you can't buy the OB pet, and you can't buy the effects.

there is more in those packs then just a kiwi or other pet. almost all other features of the closed beta packs are included in the open beta packs (points, t-shirt, poster, forum title, name in credits, create an item, etc). and at the time where only closed beta packs were available they said that those packs were unique and only obtainable during closed beta.

but now the open beta packs has 8 or 9 things exactly like in closed beta. to me, thats a lie by GGG .. they broke their promise and made the closed beta supporters look like dumbasses ...

Please provide a link to a post by a dev saying that points/tshirts/poster/titles/name in credits ... were CB exclusive?

That would be idiotic for them ever to promise (especially points)

The only thing in CB that was CB exclusive was the kiwi.

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JohnNamikaze wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

The only thing in CB that was CB exclusive was the kiwi.

I think the map of Wraeclast was CB exclusive as well.

Kiwi still best pet. Although, the eternal does look fancy :)

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Wittgenstein wrote:

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exorzist wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

They never lied. CB packs ended, OB packs started. You can't buy kiwis (cb) you can't buy the OB pet, and you can't buy the effects.

there is more in those packs then just a kiwi or other pet. almost all other features of the closed beta packs are included in the open beta packs (points, t-shirt, poster, forum title, name in credits, create an item, etc). and at the time where only closed beta packs were available they said that those packs were unique and only obtainable during closed beta.

but now the open beta packs has 8 or 9 things exactly like in closed beta. to me, thats a lie by GGG .. they broke their promise and made the closed beta supporters look like dumbasses ...

Please provide a link to a post by a dev saying that points/tshirts/poster/titles/name in credits ... were CB exclusive?

That would be idiotic for them ever to promise (especially points)

The only thing in CB that was CB exclusive was the kiwi.

i never mentioned it, because its private, but i even received a PM by Chris apoligizing to me that they, i quote:

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We tried really hard to make sure that everything was different so that the Closed Beta rewards would be special.

i am not going to paste the whole PM here by chris ... i just wanted you to let know that even Chris is aware that they fucked up with the OB ...

all the excuses and strange explainations mean nothing to me when I got a PM by chris confirming why I am so mad at them ...

@Chris
sorry man if I offended you by pasting something from our private conversation ... No offense intended

oh god as a pm by Chris actually means they promised to not do it , everybody remembers the fuss u made when OB packs were announced and you had your right obviously (even tho some points were just pure arrogant and stupid) but still its not a promise and its not a sign they admit fucking up everything . Its a sign they undersood your concern and tried to calm you down...Anyway i think this was already disccused a lot so really just forget it...