So, Blizz has the balls to remove AH...

Does GGG have the balls to change "99.99% for trading, 0.01% for crafting" high-end orbs or complete RNG-driven mechanics of Jeweler's/Fusing?

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Millennium wrote:

Does GGG have the balls to change "99.99% for trading, 0.01% for crafting" high-end orbs or complete RNG-driven mechanics of Jeweler's/Fusing?

everything seems working to me :D

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Millennium wrote:

Does GGG have the balls to change "99.99% for trading, 0.01% for crafting" high-end orbs or complete RNG-driven mechanics of Jeweler's/Fusing?

I doubt it, though I thought the exact same thing.

To quote blizzard.. 'AH system and the fact that many players around the world use it, it ultimately undermines Diablo's core game play: kill monsters to get cool loot.'

I honestly wish that was the most efficient way to play path, but alas, I suspect trade is only going to become more and more efficient as time goes on.

Especially in the base leagues that end up with huge numbers of great items.

And lets not even talk about trying to link items. Im 4000 fusings into trying to link my shavs(one of the most expensive items in the game) and its already cost me enough fusings to just buy a 6l one outright, not counting the 40 exalts I had to pay to get the damn thing in the first place lol.

I suppose you may have been trolling, but im not. Trading sucks, and pure rng crafting is almost as bad.

PoE is designed to be a game that encoureage you to play a build level a char and move to another char quickly trying something else.. they don't want you to level up only 1 char forever


One of the things that are in the game and should not be available to ANYONE, are :


- Leveling to 100
- Crafting a mirror worthy item
- Making a huge wealth.



Trading is hard but it allows you to dominate the game, ggg do not want you to stay in end game forever, i think.


So if trading is powerful => it's not that big of a problem because ggg allows you to do anything in their game ( a lot of things)


The problem of players is that they want to make all their chars to end game and reach level 100.

I can understand that tho

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Inexium wrote:

PoE is designed to be a game that encoureage you to play a build level a char and move to another char quickly trying something else.. they don't want you to level up only 1 char forever


One of the things that are in the game and should not be available to ANYONE, are :


- Leveling to 100
- Crafting a mirror worthy item
- Making a huge wealth.



Trading is hard but it allows you to dominate the game, ggg do not want you to stay in end game forever, i think.


So if trading is powerful => it's not that big of a problem because ggg allows you to do anything in their game ( a lot of things)


The problem of players is that they want to make all their chars to end game and reach level 100.

I can understand that tho

If they do not want something to be achievable, they should take it out of the game. I remember seeing a GGG quote somewhere about them wanting 6ls to be hard to get, but 6ls are not hard to get, they are random. They are only hard for the people who spend thousands of orbs trying and failing and they are stupidly easy for the people who get 6ls on their first 50 fusings. Also, trading is not hard. All you have to do is sit in the trade chats waiting to see someone selling something at a price you can profit off of and continue this. If you do this for 10 hours you are virtually guaranteed to end up with more money than someone who grinds for 50 hours. Its just silly.

funky! thread no.4 about this topic.

Orb of fusing - gives a chance to add a link to current number of sockets. Chance is lower with each link on the item.
Orb of jewelling - gives a chance to add a socket to current number of sockets. Chance is lower with each socket on the item.

Balance it and problem is solved.

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Inexium wrote:

PoE is designed to be a game that encoureage you to play a build level a char and move to another char quickly trying something else.. they don't want you to level up only 1 char forever


One of the things that are in the game and should not be available to ANYONE, are :


- Leveling to 100
- Crafting a mirror worthy item
- Making a huge wealth.



Trading is hard but it allows you to dominate the game, ggg do not want you to stay in end game forever, i think.


So if trading is powerful => it's not that big of a problem because ggg allows you to do anything in their game ( a lot of things)


The problem of players is that they want to make all their chars to end game and reach level 100.

I can understand that tho

trading is easy. you dont need to play the game to get rich in this game. just flip flip flip

scam scam scam flip flip flip

gain on buying gcp 1:4 and selling them 1:3 is one chaos and that might seem not much but because you dont play but spam trade chat all day you have time to spare

trade obscure pairs like chisel:chaos or chisel:blessed using scam ratios. 99 people will realize what you try to do, but the 100th one will fall for it. profit. repeat. profit. repeat. profit. repeat..

sadly nothing in game design encourages player to PLAY the game if you want to get rich. easiest way is to simply trade (or do lotto and scam people - it seems that people that scam are not banned and currencies are not given back so it is almost risk free)

getting rich by playing the game proper? why?

Why they should not remove it is, because it offer for players always something to do..


Imagine there were no impossible thing to do in PoE ? Don't you think a lot of players could become bored ? ( and go )

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MierenEronaile wrote:

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Inexium wrote:

PoE is designed to be a game that encoureage you to play a build level a char and move to another char quickly trying something else.. they don't want you to level up only 1 char forever


One of the things that are in the game and should not be available to ANYONE, are :


- Leveling to 100
- Crafting a mirror worthy item
- Making a huge wealth.



Trading is hard but it allows you to dominate the game, ggg do not want you to stay in end game forever, i think.


So if trading is powerful => it's not that big of a problem because ggg allows you to do anything in their game ( a lot of things)


The problem of players is that they want to make all their chars to end game and reach level 100.

I can understand that tho

If they do not want something to be achievable, they should take it out of the game. I remember seeing a GGG quote somewhere about them wanting 6ls to be hard to get, but 6ls are not hard to get, they are random. They are only hard for the people who spend thousands of orbs trying and failing and they are stupidly easy for the people who get 6ls on their first 50 fusings. Also, trading is not hard. All you have to do is sit in the trade chats waiting to see someone selling something at a price you can profit off of and continue this. If you do this for 10 hours you are virtually guaranteed to end up with more money than someone who grinds for 50 hours. Its just silly.

You may not be aware, but what you guys are asking for is an account bound looting system, or a self-found league. While both of those systems have their merits, they really go against how this genre works. In games where you can trade, the top traders will always be able to out find the top grinders. There's not really anything that you could do to stop this other than implementing account bound or self-found. I personally love trading. I like the interaction, and I don't think GGG is interested at all in account bound items. You'll have to cross your fingers that they listen to the self found league people, but I think their stance is "You can already play this game as self-found"...