Diablo 3 is happy to admit it has problems and copy POE & other ARPGs to improve.

And what was your point again? If it was about maps, maybe you should read the Dev manifesto.

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EnderCN wrote:

The two games are built for completely different fanbases. D3 is built for the console and MMO generation and PoE is built for the old school aRPG generation, why would they be similar?

People keep talking about character building but to be honest I had way more fun leveling in D3 because of their character system. The ability to swap around as you level makes it a much more fun experience, PoE gets boring by late Cruel because your character is already more or less set in stone and you just do the same thing over and over and over again. On the other hand D3 is pointless to ever level up a 2nd version of the same class, something PoE obviously handles much better. One isn't better than the other, they are just different and each individual prefers one over the other.

D3 has tons and tons of players who love it, they just wanted something different from their game than PoE players did. It doesn't mean D3 is trash, it means it wasn't the game you wanted which most likely was a D2 clone, it is a pared down MMO.

Having said all that unless they fix the horrible job they did on itemization there is no way I'd ever go back and play D3. The combat is more fun than PoE, leveling is more fun than PoE, but the end game is just garbage and there is no replayability because they chose to focus on the end game only. Unless they actually fix the end game I can't see a reason to play it.

This is obviously the best statement made.

I mean, comparing to 2 different game is so wrong.

I hate D3 to dead, not because it wasnt D2 or something similar, but is not my type of game at all. So i mock for a week trying to point out this is not Diablo series to giving up on it since i came to realize is not the game that i wanted to play. Moreover, the whole design concept is so different. It make me feel better, as i understand why some of my friends like it so much, is all matter of taste and preference.

POE in the other hand, is the game that i will keep playing till the end.
Looking forward for the new content soon.

D3s worst problem is bots. Bots have ruined that game completely.

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Smashr wrote:

D3s worst problem is bots. Bots have ruined that game completely.

I thought the game was bad looooong before bots were a reality.

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tobes111 wrote:

1) You actually enjoy queueing for PvP? What is this a game made in the 90's? The point is that queueing for a game is the equivalent of paying $1,000 for a mobile phone that is a brick and has no touch screen.

I dont queue cause I dont play pvp. This is a PvE ARPG like D3 was, why would I want to play PvP in an ARPG? I own Battlefield 2, Quake 3, Counterstrike etc, proper PvP games where your skill is the only difference between you and the next guy. I don't grind PvP FPS games for loot either oddly enough.

Its such a small, inconsequential point that its impact on the games for me and everyone I know is zero. PvP was the biggest disaster of D3, instead of fixing what was wrong with their rushed, shallow PvE game they spent the best part of the enxt 6 months developing PvP and then scrapping it and adding in this little joke area where you can fight each other. Thats fine, I don't care about that nonsense anyway but it had been made such a big deal of they let it overshadow everything, wasted 1000s of hours dev time and now the PvP and PvE is shit in that game.

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tobes111 wrote:

2)account bound MF > POE's system where you have to play boring builds like sporker to get high iir/iiq unless you are rich. Having to choose between making your character stronger or making it have a higher chance to find items is just STUPID.

I don't like the idea of account mf or having extreme mf on gear atm, but account is better yes. Compared to so many aspects D3 being crap from the ground up its not really scoring more than a tiny point in the larger picture of comparing the games but ya, mf is better there, great. A shit game with better handling of mf.

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tobes111 wrote:

3) endless waves in expac... hello? Waves of monsters?

How is this not better than the content PoE has suggested (but they do not suggest or hint at all)

It's called dangling a carrot to keep your player fan base happy

this is exactly the same thing I just called you lot out on already, you are comparing something blizzard have said they will put in their game next year with something that is already in PoE and saying 'oh look, this is a selling point for D3 over PoE'.

We have Cowards Trial, D3 has nothing, this game is going to have a major content patch in a month, D3 wont have one till next year, by the time D3 adds what they have promised many patches including content like new maps and new endgame play will have been added to PoE.

A carrot to keep the players happy? The game has been released for a year and a half and they have only just announced they will get around to adding things PoE already has, adding them at some point next year, PoE is being released next month and is adding yet even more things D3 still does not have a year and a half into release, and its doing it on a tiny fraction of the budget.

This game puts Blizzard to shame, those 3 points you mention dont change that reality. Get real guys, you are letting your emotions over ride your logic and what you are saying is said out of spite not out of a real appraisal of the games. Youre clutching at straws. Anyone who cares about games gets emotional and will rant and vent on issues, and PoE has issues thats for sure. But when you are trying to argue up is down and left is right youve drifted into an area where your opinions are being shaped to fit your emotions rather than those emotions coming from honest, logical opinions.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

If only wishes meant shit.

If you think GGG doesn't act on its wishes then you're not paying much attention. Of course you're probably talking about a complete eradication of RMT, which of course would be ideal but isn't very realistic.

I'm not saying that.

Let me try an analogy.

I could lay out a nice table of pies in a field, and 'wish' they won't attract flies.

My wishes mean shit.

I can run around chasing the flies, I can explain to people 'I didn't wish for this', but I'd have been better having planned differently from the start.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Hell_Cow: So, where precisely did 'Diablo 3' (and I think you meant Blizzard there) admit that it has problems and directly copied 'good parts' of Path of Exile?

I'm giving you every chance not to look like a mere fanboy (and trouble-maker, given this isn't even a Diablo 3 board) here. Show me evidence of your claim. Please.

Still haven't heard back from Hell_Bovine in this regard. Anyone else got something? I mean, this does sort of directly challenge the topic title's claim, which I think is a fair thing to challenge.

Blizzard have admitted numerous times that D3 had problems. While I'm not so sure about them openly admitting copying aspects of PoE, they pretty obviously have done and I'm sure they know how obvious it is, too.

GGG would do well to emulate some of Blizzard's latest thoughts and actions on how to steer the aRPG train back on track to loot-find after D3 completely bastardised the genre. Something GGG watched happen and failed to act on, in fact, they took it a step further and gated content behind trade. Something that Blizzard, in all their greed* didn't even comprehend.

*note, there is a clear difference in the greed of Blizzard and the green of GGG.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Hell_Cow: So, where precisely did 'Diablo 3' (and I think you meant Blizzard there) admit that it has problems and directly copied 'good parts' of Path of Exile?

I'm giving you every chance not to look like a mere fanboy (and trouble-maker, given this isn't even a Diablo 3 board) here. Show me evidence of your claim. Please.

Still haven't heard back from Hell_Bovine in this regard. Anyone else got something? I mean, this does sort of directly challenge the topic title's claim, which I think is a fair thing to challenge.

Blizzard have admitted numerous times that D3 had problems. While I'm not so sure about them openly admitting copying aspects of PoE, they pretty obviously have done and I'm sure they know how obvious it is, too.

GGG would do well to emulate some of Blizzard's latest thoughts and actions on how to steer the aRPG train back on track to loot-find after D3 completely bastardised the genre. Something GGG watched happen and failed to act on, in fact, they took it a step further and gated content behind trade.

I have yet to see Blizzard getting back on track. All I have seen till now are promises.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Hell_Cow: So, where precisely did 'Diablo 3' (and I think you meant Blizzard there) admit that it has problems and directly copied 'good parts' of Path of Exile?

I'm giving you every chance not to look like a mere fanboy (and trouble-maker, given this isn't even a Diablo 3 board) here. Show me evidence of your claim. Please.

Still haven't heard back from Hell_Bovine in this regard. Anyone else got something? I mean, this does sort of directly challenge the topic title's claim, which I think is a fair thing to challenge.

Blizzard have admitted numerous times that D3 had problems. While I'm not so sure about them openly admitting copying aspects of PoE, they pretty obviously have done and I'm sure they know how obvious it is, too.

GGG would do well to emulate some of Blizzard's latest thoughts and actions on how to steer the aRPG train back on track to loot-find after D3 completely bastardised the genre. Something GGG watched happen and failed to act on, in fact, they took it a step further and gated content behind trade.

well said!!