Auction house Yes/No?

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Williamn wrote:

Haven't read through all 18 pages so forgive me if somebody suggested this before :)

I would love to see an in-game marketplace. Trade can only happen in the marketplace area, and trade chat is only visible to you when you are in the marketplace.

- The marketplace would bustle with sellers announcing their wares and prices via the local trade chat
- There would be market stalls that traders can purchase (microtransaction) and display their wares with c/o and b/o when they are online
- You can upgrade your market stall with a NPC vendor (again a microtransaction, requres the microtransaction above) who will automatic sell anything in your shop if somebody offer the announced b/o price

If you as a trader have purchased both the above mentioned microtransactions his wares will be displayed and possibly sold (b/o) while he is farming maps or even offline.

This would be a sketch with plenty of room for improvement, but just a thought I had when seeing this thread. I think it would also make Wraeclast feel more alive, improve the social aspects of the game, and make PoE feel more like a MMO.

I think an in-game marketplace is a chaotic place and at the same time harder to implement from a game developer with limited resources.

I think GGG has already stated that they will be doing the public stash route.
It is simpler to implement.
Easier to search the specific item you are looking for.
You could do trade on web browsers.
seller set their bo
buyer either purchase the bo or leave their c/o

I wish they strike a balance on the microtransaction on stash tabs/dollar as to not saturate the market with garbage

And a currency exchange option is also a nice plus as this will normalize the exchange rate

Sure, why not make more spam?

Not only no, but hell no.

D3 got some things right insofar as game (SOME) play mechanics and SOME player mechanics,
physics and destructables and what not...

But among the core sins was the concept of the Auction House.
That alone destroyed the game with the messed up alteration of drop rates
and other screwed up variables.
The less of Jay Wilson TAINT on PoE the better.

I said publicly shortly after this game went into closed 'pay for' Beta last year
that this game had the potential to be the better D2 successor than D3.
I still feel that way, I gave up on D3 within a month of that games release.

I dont' like all I see here, I've given 'up' several times. HOWEVER of the two
I return to PoE far more often than D3. Why? Cause this game has the potential still.

No Jay Wilson legacy, and at least GG is obviously working as hard as they can
month by month. It appears Blizzard gave up long ago and is just playing fools hope games.


No AH, No Jay Wilson hidden foot prints with dog shit trailings.

Just say no.

This is my contribution to thread spam for the hour.


You are welcome.

No

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Buzi wrote:

Sure, why not make more spam?

Not only no, but hell no.

D3 got some things right insofar as game (SOME) play mechanics and SOME player mechanics,
physics and destructables and what not...

But among the core sins was the concept of the Auction House.
That alone destroyed the game with the messed up alteration of drop rates
and other screwed up variables.
The less of Jay Wilson TAINT on PoE the better.

I said publicly shortly after this game went into closed 'pay for' Beta last year
that this game had the potential to be the better D2 successor than D3.
I still feel that way, I gave up on D3 within a month of that games release.

I dont' like all I see here, I've given 'up' several times. HOWEVER of the two
I return to PoE far more often than D3. Why? Cause this game has the potential still.

No Jay Wilson legacy, and at least GG is obviously working as hard as they can
month by month. It appears Blizzard gave up long ago and is just playing fools hope games.


No AH, No Jay Wilson hidden foot prints with dog shit trailings.

Just say no.

This is my contribution to thread spam for the hour.


You are welcome.

i share your frustration on RMAH and gold Auction house on that garbage.
good thing is POE is sticking to its consumable currency
Public Stash is the way to go and its all good.

POE is a game made by gamers a mantra of Blizzard of old and not that Activison money first mentality.

I think a lot of you are impaired in some way. You say you don't want an AH. Instead, you want a system of searchable stash tabs that allow sellers to set buyouts and buyers to quickly purchase items. I have news for you. This is essentially an AH. Clearly, lot of you didn't really spend much time in D3 nor do you have much experience with its AH that you despise so much. I am almost certain that the vast majority of sales and purchases were done with a buyout and not an actual auction. Some items were auctioned, but not even close to the amount of buyouts.

Wake the hell up and let's get a freaking AH in this game.

Too many negative players asking for unreasonable prices, I believe the bigger problem lies in majority players valuing chaos orbs over other currency making it difficult to get items you want without overpaying.

Adding an auction house to the game might make it more popular and enjoyable, or it could just make the game extremely easy as it did for diablo 3 and guild wars 2. The only gear that was worth a reasonable amount was the perfect gear, everything else that was almost equal in performance was easy to get.

Buying full sets of gear on games like Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2 every few levels was easy for anyone.

Making the auction house might cause everyone to request chaos and not resolve the currency preference...If gold was added who knows

They could make a 2-3 month or longer server with an auction house and universal currency to see how everything unfolds.

As of now a grouping system or something to attempt to make the community friendlier/more sportsmanlike is something I see fit.

Yes. Spending hours trading/using forums sucks donkey balls and is not fun and is not entertaining. Also this model turns away casual players who ARE the majority of player base.

No casuals = dead game

YES!

Actually the trade forum is an AH, but it is not efficient.

Let's analyze the thing in a scientific way:

- People who do not want an AH say that it would ruin the game since it would be more convenient to buy an item rather than farm or roll it with orb. This is actually the case.

What is the drawback of present (forum+chat) AH? The drawback is that we have to spend A LOT of time searching the item, meet the player, discuss price, often the buyer retracts his offer at the last moment, etc... These may be seen as FEES for the use of the AH. They are very negative fees, since we have to pay with our real-life time, and we subtract time to play (i installed PoE to slain monster and use orbs, not to spam in chat/forum). The result is that the ask/offer gap is very high, and trade is discouraged. It is is still valuable to use orb/farm rather than trade. I think that GGG want to keep farming/forging more appetible than trading, and i agree with them.

Solution: make an efficient fee system in an automated AH. These fee should be evaluated with in-game object/orbs rather than in real-life good (such as time). The best way i can imagine to realize that is an AH in which:

1 - ask a little fee to put the object on sale (maybe a few portal/wisdom), and, most of all:
2 - if you put the object in the AH, you loose it. Either the NPC will buy it, either a player will buy it. This is a great fee. If you put an high value item on AH, you risk to sell it for a few shard to NPC, if no one overbid. Nobody would put such valuable items in the AH.

Result: mid game item are available for mid-game player. High-end items must be either farmed or searched 'manually' in the forum. Moreover, there is a good item-sink which is not present in the present economic (at least in standard).

yes