Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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syzmic wrote:

Totally agree all that is said here.

Just give us an option i don't think its a lot to ask for.

No.

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[–]chris_wilson 3 points 3 days ago
We are very against adding meta-options (like looting modes) to the game for a variety of reasons, so they are seen as a last resort.

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mushioov wrote:

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syzmic wrote:

Totally agree all that is said here.

Just give us an option i don't think its a lot to ask for.

No.

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[–]chris_wilson 3 points 3 days ago
We are very against adding meta-options (like looting modes) to the game for a variety of reasons, so they are seen as a last resort.

Very against does not mean No, I'll stick to my opinion and hope GGG changes their minds.

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These changes were made to increase their allocation duration (for fairness)

Great!

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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GhostlightX wrote:

FFA loot is also killing the endgame. No one wants to run their dwindling stock of Maps with strangers who might ninja drops and new Maps. Give us the instanced option and you will see a LOT more open games running maps

People would still "ninja" maps in an instanced setting. The mechanics would be different, however the end result is the EXACT same. You opened a map, and did not get the/any maps that dropped inside of it. There is NO DIFFERENCE.

There is a world of difference. It would not matter that I opened a Map and got no Map back from it, so I would no longer care. Nor would anyone else.

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GhostlightX wrote:

I do 2 or 3 Maps per night if I am lucky. 30 whole mins of endgame play. AMAZING. What a brilliant endgame. That'll keep the playerbase till Act 4 launches in 2014.

If there were actually open public games running maps I could do a dozen a night.

So, you would be leeching in these map runs?

Leeching what exactly? No one's collection of Maps would matter any more. I'd be equally happy having 100 Maps or having none because I could simply open one of mine and run it with 5 others, safe in the knowledge everyone will get fair loot and there will be no ninjas. Or I could go to the noticeboard and join the most recently formed Map group.

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GhostlightX wrote:

I have 3 maps to my name. 30 to 40 mins gameplay? Than I am all out of endgame unless I get lucky and more Maps drop. I can play for about 5 hours tonight. I'd need about 20 Maps to play meaningfully for that time. Will I get that with the 3 I have? No chance. I could run some public Map groups to make up the time. Oh no wait, I can't because there aren't any.

Ah, so you are leeching in maps.

Again, leeching how? How is it possible to leech Maps when Map groups are always available? My personal Map count no longer matters, so what's to leech? I could certainly not leech loot because it would be instanced.

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GhostlightX wrote:

I would happily burn my 3 Maps as public right now if I knew I could spend the rest of the evening jumping into other Map runs.

Thank you for proving my point. You would happily use your 3 maps in pub, if you KNEW you could get "run maps for the rest of the night".

Of course. As would everyone else. Everyone would have an endgame, and the creator of a Map would not have the desperate need to get another Map to drop in order to continue his endgame, because there would always be public games available to him instead when he runs dry.

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That's like saying I would happily give someone a free exalt, if I knew I would get 10 back....

It is not remotely like that since the commodity in question is benefitting 6 people and is consumed in the process.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

There are plenty of pub map groups, they just fill up instantaneously. I often see them on the boards whenever I look.

I experimented last night and saw ZERO open public map runs over 5 hours. Now, I only checked whenever I went back to the city which was roughly every 20 mins. And I only searched for about 2 mins at a time. I could have been unlucky. But really. ZERO? Over 5 hours. It is also true that the board only shows me 20 to 30 parties, which is surely not them all? Of that number, the vast majority were farming either the Ledge or Fellshrine, and the rest were actually trading groups.

Shrug.

Where are the public Map groups I can join? They may be there but if they are as scarce as the Maps themselves, there are not enough of them. Instanced loot option would result in many more.

Well, before level 73 i had no maps, then maps started dropping a little by little but that's because i started clearing areas fast and killing a big number of mobs in a short period of time.
Now i have round 6 level 66 maps and 12-14 level 67-68 ones, and hoping soon to get some level 69-70.


I would happily clear maps with strangers, if the loot system was like in D3 or similar. And i am talking only about the group loot system in D3, not all the other parts of the game which are failures.

Even if they make the timer 10 seconds, i will not party with strangers since often the game desyncs or lags hardcore because of all the effects from projectiles, etc.. on the screen.

So yeah, sorry. If they make it like in D3 or similar or some safe way for you to get your loot, ok, but for now no, i prefer to progress 10 times slower than having this loot system.

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Charan wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/268683/page/1

I'd like to point out that every one of these changes I've seen suggested outside of this thread.

I've updated the first post to include a link to these patch notes so that people will know where to post feedback about the loot system from here on if they want any chance to be read by a dev.

If you want to just keep ranting and attacking each other and arguing, this thread shall suffice for that. :)

Well nah. My work is done. /thread for me

Looks like the crybabies have won. Or is this still not good enough for them?

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oranged wrote:

Looks like the crybabies have won. Or is this still not good enough for them?

:)

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EndOfEnds wrote:

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whatgood wrote:

we would better off without u trash casuals..

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guidoo wrote:

Find another game.

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Jtmoney wrote:

We don't want anymore whining babies complaining that the Devs won't bend over for them.

FFA players use brain and maybe stop you rage replys and think of the other 95% of player base !
we (both FFA and non FFA players) love this game and want it to carry on for a long time

My Simple and easy solution ,(i have posted this months ago and in closed beta)

>> when Party Leader makes a Party ....give him the option of FFA or FFA with timer or Non FFA for that party
= All player Base HAPPY and no more FFA threads each day !!!


GGG thanks for this small change I will finally try some party playing now