Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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wrathmar wrote:

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Crackmonster wrote:

Whatever you said stryker you cant deny he is right about one thing - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless.

That's just the way it is.

It is up to us to resist the corrosion of game quality.

Hypothetically they add an instanced option to public parties. What could they do to keep some of the loot competition that you enjoy?

Thanks for trying, but no, i don't hypothetically enjoy swimming in any cesspool whatsoever.

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This game is not meant to be friendly. If you want friends you should make some. Not expect them.

Maybe he would like a "queue" option that will do it for him?

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wrathmar wrote:

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Crackmonster wrote:

Whatever you said stryker you cant deny he is right about one thing - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless.

That's just the way it is.

It is up to us to resist the corrosion of game quality.

Hypothetically they add an instanced option to public parties. What could they do to keep some of the loot competition that you enjoy?

Keep FFA loot as the other option.

What do I win?

You dont get it - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless

In the end they will bring their own downfall just like Diablo 3 and the whole of Blizz, not understanding why - they just wanted it to be easier and more mindless

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Crackmonster wrote:

You dont get it - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless

Who are these masses? Surely the hardcores like yourself - this core playerbase that GGG want and that are not casuals - would pick FFA loot all the time?

Or did you just concede that most players would prefer instanced loot?

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Crackmonster wrote:

You dont get it - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless

In the end they will bring their own downfall just like Diablo 3 and the whole of Blizz, not understanding why - they just wanted it to be easier and more mindless

Then instead of just repeating this, why don't you try to think about a way to reduce complaints about looting without making everybody flock to an easier option, whether than easier option is the only option available or not.

And please don't just say your idea is "My way or no way, go back to d3 if you cant handle it"

Perhaps the party leader could have the option to increase or reduce the timer on loot. So if you are partying with the intent of taking other people's loot, set the timer to low. If you want a friendly environment, set it to high. Though increased loot timers may be considered just another easier option.

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EndOfEnds wrote:

Perhaps the party leader could have the option to increase or reduce the timer on loot.

LOL....


HELLL FREAKIN NOOOOOOOO!

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Crackmonster wrote:

You dont get it - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless

Yes. Proof: There are 0 players on the hardcore league.

Oh wait...

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Crackmonster wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

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Crackmonster wrote:

Whatever you said stryker you cant deny he is right about one thing - masses will flock to the easiest option and they will never turn down the choice of making things more easy and mindless.

That's just the way it is.

It is up to us to resist the corrosion of game quality.

Hypothetically they add an instanced option to public parties. What could they do to keep some of the loot competition that you enjoy?

Thanks for trying, but no, i don't hypothetically enjoy swimming in any cesspool whatsoever.

So you are just picking apart other people suggestions without providing any of you own?

They are changing the system. What could they do to keep some of the loot competition that you enjoy?

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Then instead of just repeating this, why don't you try to think about a way to reduce complaints about looting without making everybody flock to an easier option

I have:

Make loot show up for others only after the timer has expired for its named person.

That will ideally prevent people just stacking up on top of the loot waiting for timers to expire and blocked the one whos name is on it, etc.

Not saying this is the best solution, i just hope they will consider it.

The thing is, the masses want a game so mindless that they do good. Those, im sure you wouldn't mind me calling "pros", like their knowledge to reflect in their performance, gain and status within the game. That means they seek the games where you can use your ability and skill to improve personal performance and gain.

Thing is when a game is only mindless players left it dies, because these mindless players are from the masses and follow their masters - and when the masters do not feel they can use their knowledge well they move on, making the game uninteresting for the crying masses.

The crying masses secretly want to do what their masters are doing, be what they are.

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Yes. Proof: There are 0 players on the hardcore league.

Oh wait...

This is because it's a hardcore game and not made for baddies who prefer softcore. Everything is relative in the world.

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GhostlightX wrote:

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SeikenZ wrote:

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BigBadWolf1776 wrote:

It had my name on it, hence it was mine. Period.

You're correct in that it "WAS" yours. After that, it became everyone's.

Like GGG said, this game is meant to be competitive and it definitely should remain competitive.

What exactly is competitive about loot ninjaing?

I wish I could set up a hard map with yourself and my friend Charlie, who is a MASTER loot ninja. I assure you if he went with his Marauder and you took a ranged class, then either he'd take 80% of the loot assigned to you OR you would die trying to prevent him from doing that, most probably both. He's a master.

What is this "ninjaing", that you refer to? It's people like you who import terms like that from WoW, even though it doesn't have any meaning here, since none of the loot is exclusively yours to pick up after the timer runs out.

The rest of your post is a "cool story bro" pretty much.