What Will Happen When the Keepers League Ends

F Breach
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Edenbird#5192 wrote:
What are You doing with this game is just sad :(
First time since playin poe1(3kh), started to think im out of this game.

WHY They added mechanics wich DESTROYS:

Essences
Expedition (Rog!)
Delve fossiles
Harbi fracturing orbs (price before bloody three 7-8div, after 1-2 div)
6-links from Legions
Shippment compared to new breach is to slow
Alva double corrupting gems
Destroying crafting overall

The way You are going with this gem game, is clearly showing Us how important for GGG was Chris Wilson.


+1
Mega loss.
General consensus is that the playbase dislikes the wall breach.
It even ruins the maps we run by blocking a ton of other mechanics.

If you are forcing this turd on us, at least give us a way to block it as well.
smh
The item arm of the tree going core is big sad.
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PlammX#6059 wrote:
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Edenbird#5192 wrote:
What are You doing with this game is just sad :(
First time since playin poe1(3kh), started to think im out of this game.

WHY They added mechanics wich DESTROYS:

Essences
Expedition (Rog!)
Delve fossiles
Harbi fracturing orbs (price before bloody three 7-8div, after 1-2 div)
6-links from Legions
Shippment compared to new breach is to slow
Alva double corrupting gems
Destroying crafting overall

The way You are going with this gem game, is clearly showing Us how important for GGG was Chris Wilson.

The easy obvious answer is you can engage whatever content you want to get what you want; i don't play all above mechanics except alva and shipping, so you want to force me to play rog? no way.


The wall breach is taking up so much space in a map, that it's actively blocking out other content. This is very valid concern, no matter how little you enjoy rog.
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People crying about the tree are just no lifer. If you actually HAS a job and a family the tree was awesome way to progress the way.
But people that play 20 hours in the first three days won't understand that.

sure, bc almost all the people have a job we should completely trivialize progression and make a large number of early strats useless

I completely agree with the guy who said that tree is even worse for people who do not marathon leaguestart playing for 48h. in normal league, you can do a number of early chill strats which require starting gear and can help your progression. for instance, pre-keepers expedition can give you suppres+res gear for sale, etc. expedition itself is extremely chill, especially if you play DOT build. legion is ok if you play clear build, you can either sell incubators or pop them, and sell emblems. essences have always been the best begginer strategy in poe as far as i know, bc you dont even need high tier maps to farm them with maximum efficiency.

now all this content is bad bc of provisioning wombgift. lucky 6links you drop are nothing, fusings are nothing, fractures and -rarity fractured gear farm is nothing, morrigan went down in price and its extremely rare and bestiary scarabs cost like a airplane wing early. geomancer incubator which requires 30k slain mobs is now useless, and previously it was the core of early legion farming

provisioning wombgift is just unhealthy. it should not stay in the game even if numbers in tree's tree and nerfed by 50%+- it still gonna be OP
Last edited by SoColdO_O#1989 on Feb 16, 2026, 8:48:19 AM
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So let me get this straight, because of people who have 3 jobs, 11 wives and 20 kids, the game needs to be dumbed down, simplified and casualized ?!

You're the one who doesn't understand: casual players are more than welcome, but the game should NEVER cater to them. What a level of entitlement you have.

This game had core original game design principles and philosophies, it was supposed to be hard, a grind. People have been supporting this game for 15 years, it's now it's changing its core audience, trying to cater and attract more casual players, at the detriment of difficulty.

"No-lifers" as you call them, are the backbone of a game and community of this type.

And I'll say this once again so it's clear: the Genesis tree is the worst addition this game has ever seen, period, there is no debate to be had.


Your analysis stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of how the gaming industry actually works: you believe 'no-lifers' are the backbone, when in reality, casual players are the circulatory system that keeps the game alive. Without the mass of players who have 'jobs and families' buying Stash Tabs and cosmetics, there wouldn't even be a server running for you to exercise your 'hardcore' lifestyle. A game that ignores the base of its pyramid is simply signing its own death warrant by niche-appeasement.

Claiming the game is being 'dumbed down' just because the Genesis Tree offers a more humane progression is blind elitism. Real difficulty should reside in mechanics and boss encounters, not in a requirement of forced unemployment just to acquire decent gear. If your enjoyment depends on others struggling or failing to progress so you can feel 'special,' the problem isn't the game design—it's your ego.

And regarding your 'there is no debate to be had': that is the favorite phrase of petty dictators who lack the arguments to sustain their ideas and instead try to impose their worldview on everyone else. Fortunately, GGG is a business, not a charity for elitists, and they understand the game must be sustainable for the entire community, not just for those who treat Wraeclast like a mandatory double-shift job.

To borrow a concept from Aristotle's Metaphysics, you are obsessed with the Final Cause: the 'perfect' elite endgame and the prestige that comes with it. But you completely ignore the Material Cause: the actual resources that allow the game to exist in the physical world.
Such a letdown. Was hoping we would get old Breach back!
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Your analysis stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of how the gaming industry actually works: you believe 'no-lifers' are the backbone, when in reality, casual players are the circulatory system that keeps the game alive.

poe is already extremely great game for casual players even without tree which annihilates adequate early progression.
if you want to delete content for "no-lifers", you are probably just FOMOed because of video game xddd imagine being like that?
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Gucci#5772 wrote:
Give us a few extra atlas points so we can block the new breach without being penalized.

Yes, please.

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