The 0.2 difficulty outcry was Mandela effect caused by the streamers. Game Feedback

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

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Kadath128#6487 wrote:

Literally wrong on all counts on this one. His first character in 0.1 was a Warrior and his first character in 0.2 was a Witch.

You seem to just be making things up regarding a streamer who was voicing the opinions of one of the largest PoE communities.

I cannot fathom how can anybody play Witch in 0.2 and feel like the game is too hard or too slow.

Because GGG nerfed minions into the ground. Have you not been keeping up?

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Aulyx#1181 wrote:

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

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Kadath128#6487 wrote:

Literally wrong on all counts on this one. His first character in 0.1 was a Warrior and his first character in 0.2 was a Witch.

You seem to just be making things up regarding a streamer who was voicing the opinions of one of the largest PoE communities.

I cannot fathom how can anybody play Witch in 0.2 and feel like the game is too hard or too slow.

Because GGG nerfed minions into the ground. Have you not been keeping up?

Try the wand attack lol.
yes I admit the minions really straight up just don't work in early game. Low level skeleton warriors could as well just not be there.

But in the same time Witch can start with Poison Chaos bolt and Contagion.

a Lich Response:

0.1 difficulty curve to 0.2(hunt) overall id say the initial push without all my twink gear does sting. But I have a better grasp on items, rare's to keep and how to build around classes to have a multiplicative effect.

Problem is that there are a number of issues I've seen thus far from the perspective of a level 45 lich which is my first class attempted this release thus far.

I haven't used a Tame Beast Gem yet, But I've tried 4 different Spectre's... while they can use niffty skills ..mobs ignore them entirely, the bigger or slower the specter the more often it condenses into a useless ball and just sits there before I move far enough to make the ball move and it will re-spawn itself and start attacking again...but even then... mobs and a number of mob skills just ignore them entirely.. so using them as shields is tricky because a stone sentinel has the same hit box as a skelly warrior.

the Bonuses to Chaos spells are quite nice, trade off being that I am super susceptible to boss mechanics and easy to one shot...as I loose Mana, Health and Energy Shield per shot. The biggest Issue I have been having is with Energy shield...as the spacing required to drop curses and time them right, with keeping up energy drain and contagion... the arena's get filled with AoE's that make the playstyle... more difficult than it need be.

So far my only difficulties have been Jamanra, Bog Witch and Apex of Filth boss.

Absolutelly not, I don't even watch streamers

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

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kanoxuk#4589 wrote:

I dont agree but I'm not interested in arguing about why there has been such a negative response to 0.2, players have agency beyond what a streamer says, and clearly GGG have the metrics to show that there are a number of pain points that they are actively addressing.

I also do not believe for a second that GGG can be 'bullied' into making sweeping changes a day after an interview with a streamer, even one as large in the community as Zizaran.

I also think its very funny how many people are going on at Zizaran when largely he's very positive about the game and rarely has strong negative feedback about any major patch.

And once again, I would suggest the expectation when introducing a new class is a large number of players will want to try it out, for as many viewers as streamers have, its only a small proportion of the close to 300k just on Steam who logged in to play 0.2.

he said make bleed work on ES and they did it

TBF, that one did need fixing. If we can't apply bleeding on monsters with ES, what's the point of going for a bleed build?

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Aulyx#1181 wrote:

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

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Kadath128#6487 wrote:

Because GGG nerfed minions into the ground. Have you not been keeping up?

Try the wand attack lol.
yes I admit the minions really straight up just don't work in early game. Low level skeleton warriors could as well just not be there.

But in the same time Witch can start with Poison Chaos bolt and Contagion.

That's interesting. I think I'll try that out when I get bored of my Ranger. lol But 50% chance to poison is ehhh, but I'll still try it.

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

Try the wand attack lol.
yes I admit the minions really straight up just don't work in early game. Low level skeleton warriors could as well just not be there.

But in the same time Witch can start with Poison Chaos bolt and Contagion.

Which is exactly what he did. You know you can just watch the streams right?

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Aulyx#1181 wrote:

That's interesting. I think I'll try that out when I get bored of my Ranger. lol But 50% chance to poison is ehhh, but I'll still try it.

50% chance to poison the entire pack of mobs because Contagion spreads the poison damage.

That's what you do until you get your Essence Drain, Essence Drain plus Contagion is the current meta build, it completely destroys the campaign, two button screen clear.

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Kadath128#6487 wrote:

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Cpt_Katawa#5469 wrote:

Try the wand attack lol.
yes I admit the minions really straight up just don't work in early game. Low level skeleton warriors could as well just not be there.

But in the same time Witch can start with Poison Chaos bolt and Contagion.

Which is exactly what he did. You know you can just watch the streams right?

Then how can he describe that as slow?

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Aulyx#1181 wrote:

That's interesting. I think I'll try that out when I get bored of my Ranger. lol But 50% chance to poison is ehhh, but I'll still try it.

Put it on Dark Effigy, not Chaos Bolt. Assuming you aren't starting from lvl 1.