I'm worried GGG took our money and ran

Shit! i didn't know i am an AI!!! oh no! i just realize i live in a matrix!!! my whole existence....my whole sentient being is a LIE!!!

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 wrote:

The sad part is: the only players enjoying this game are the ones breaking it and taking advantage of unintended interactions. The rest of the players, trying legit ''offmeta'' builds, are being punished from every corner.
This game is just like life itself: only people with an insane amount of currency and shady gameplay are fully enjoying it.

I must be playing a different game, I play offmeta and I'm enjoying it a lot. I believe I'm playing the intended way and it's great.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Ah, so there's communication but it doesn't match your tinfoil hat, great.

Also, I totally remember Cyberpunk and NMS fixing everything in 8 weeks. OH WAIT it took YEARS. And those were FULL LAUNCHES not EA.

Everything you say, everywhere on this forum, is the most brainrot nonsense I've ever read.

everything is fine it's ea

Do you need to parrot this every page / week ? We got it the first time .
Or maybe you're just trying to convince yourself here ? Either way i don't care about further copypasting itS eA laWl nor i care about your lame attempt at stirring personal shit here .

Steam Support classifies Early Access as:
Early Access is a unique development model that allows games to be played as they progress towards a full release. Early Access encourages ongoing updates from developers, while letting players participate in direct feedback through gameplay and community involvement.

Also from Wikipedia: Early access, also known as alpha access, alpha founding, paid alpha, or game preview, is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can purchase and play a game in the various pre-release development cycles, such as pre-alpha, alpha, and/or beta...

Once again, as I've stated a million times it seems...you can't disregard aspects of a game or it's development because it's convenient for you. Things have definitions and rules and you just want shit your way. Too bad.

Also, I'd love for you to show me where I stirred personal anything. Disproving your lies isn't personal, it's logical.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Early Access is a unique development model that allows games to be played as they progress towards a full release. Early Access encourages ongoing updates from developers, while letting players participate in direct feedback through gameplay and community involvement.

Did i said that or did i not : "The reason i'm here is because i think there is potential for the title to be a huge success eventually , but for that to happen GGG needs to go into turbo mode"

So why this fucking obsession about Early Access ?! What i do have a fucking problem with is not the fact an EA game got plenty of issues but the fact all these issues have been there for 2+ months or even longer when it comes to the issues ported from PoE 1 meanwhile the Devs are playing hide & seek about it, and they are refusing to engage with the community in any way / shape / form beyond some PR bullshit . This goes against the very definition you just quoted of what EA is supposed to be about and that's where my grip is .

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Also, I'd love for you to show me where I stirred personal anything. Disproving your lies isn't personal, it's logical.

Either you suffer from severe social impairment or memory loss if i do need to point that to you .

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

Did i said that or did i not : "The reason i'm here is because i think there is potential for the title to be a huge success eventually , but for that to happen GGG needs to go into turbo mode"

No, they don't need to go into turbo mode. Are you a game dev? Are you an adviser for game companies? Where do you get your knowledge from, that GGG needs to go into turbo mode tp be successful? From my experience, when game devs start to speed up development processes, it usually leads to mistakes and errors during development.

To design and balance a game like PoE, you need to consider tons of stuff. That takes time. I rather have them take 2 years to finish PoE2, then them rushing it in 6 month and the product seems to be unfished and not thought-through.

Also, the funny thing is: PoE2 is already a huge success. There are still many players playing and the player regression is natural for a game like this. So players seem to enjoy this game, even though it hasn't unleashed its full potential already.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

So why this fucking obsession about Early Access ?! What i do have a fucking problem with is not the fact an EA game got plenty of issues but the fact all these issues have been there for 2+ months or even longer when it comes to the issues ported from PoE 1 meanwhile the Devs are playing hide & seek about it, and they are refusing to engage with the community in any way / shape / form beyond some PR bullshit . This goes against the very definition you just quoted of what EA is supposed to be about and that's where my grip is .

It's not an obsession. It's just stating the fact that a game in this stage of development is prone to be unbalanced and unfinished and that many changes will happen until 1.0, whenever that is.

Furthermore: Who are you to decide for everyone what kind of engagement is "PR shit" or "communication/engaging with the community"? For me, I found the interview very honest. They answered what they could and when they didn't know an answer to something, they were also honest about it. If it would have been PR, Chris would just have used tons of buzzwords like "Melee? Oh, it's going to be GREAT! Can't get into detail yet, but just WAIT for it!". But this didn't happen.

Furthermore, your obsession with the 2 month is also ridiculous. The game released 06.12. I think and they want on holiday for 4 weeks. That means they only worked for 4-5 weeks on PoE2 after release. They reworked most of the uniques, reworked some skills and balanced stuff. So they focused on playability first, without introducing an economic reset. I think we can expect a bigger patch within the next 4 weeks, probably with some new content. And that's enough.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Also, I'd love for you to show me where I stirred personal anything. Disproving your lies isn't personal, it's logical.

Either you suffer from severe social impairment or memory loss if i do need to point that to you .

No, I would be interested too. You like to throw around buzzwords like "stirring personal", but when asked to point out what exactly was stirring, you then get personal with words like "social impairment or memory loss"... That's kinda offending, don't you think?

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Early Access is a unique development model that allows games to be played as they progress towards a full release. Early Access encourages ongoing updates from developers, while letting players participate in direct feedback through gameplay and community involvement.

Did i said that or did i not : "The reason i'm here is because i think there is potential for the title to be a huge success eventually , but for that to happen GGG needs to go into turbo mode"

So why this fucking obsession about Early Access ?! What i do have a fucking problem with is not the fact an EA game got plenty of issues but the fact all these issues have been there for 2+ months or even longer when it comes to the issues ported from PoE 1 meanwhile the Devs are playing hide & seek about it, and they are refusing to engage with the community in any way / shape / form beyond some PR bullshit . This goes against the very definition you just quoted of what EA is supposed to be about and that's where my grip is .

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Also, I'd love for you to show me where I stirred personal anything. Disproving your lies isn't personal, it's logical.

Either you suffer from severe social impairment or memory loss if i do need to point that to you .

Oh, buddy.
You gave Cyberpunk as an example.
And said CD Projekt went into turbo mode.
It took them 2 years to fix the game with that turbo mode.

And you are complaining PoE 2 is not "fixed" after 2 months?
You are a complete joke.

I already go my 60$ worth of entertainment.
Anything more is
Gravy

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rastaqki#6957 wrote:

Oh, buddy.
You gave Cyberpunk as an example.
And said CD Projekt went into turbo mode.
It took them 2 years to fix the game with that turbo mode.

And you are complaining PoE 2 is not "fixed" after 2 months?
You are a complete joke.

In 2 months GGG published 2 updates .
In that same period of time after CP2077 release ( before Christmas = same as PoE 2 ) CDPR did EIGHT UPDATES :

Patch 1.12 2021/2/5
Patch 1.11 2021/1/28
Patch 1.1 2021/1/22
Patch 1.06 2020/12/23
Patch 1.05 2020/12/19
Patch 1.04 2020/12/12
Patch 1.03 2020/12/10
Patch 1.02 2020/12/10

Got what i meant with "turbo mode" now ?
And we ain't talking about GGG's one-liner-hotfixes : Patch 1.02 was 15GB .

But keep clowning about iT wilL bE fIx iN tWo yEaRs tOo when GGG is known for completely dropping season support two weeks after release , and have displayed the slowest updating pace possible so far ( last hotfix was one week ago ) : at this rate there's no way these 40.000 threads of bugs report about HALF A GAME get solved in the next 10 years .

Anyway how many fucking pages is the thread about crashes on PC already ?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594471/page/478

Oh damn , page 478 . Probably nothing .

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 wrote:

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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:

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ThreeBelowZero#2968 wrote:

The sad part is: the only players enjoying this game are the ones breaking it and taking advantage of unintended interactions. The rest of the players, trying legit ''offmeta'' builds, are being punished from every corner.
This game is just like life itself: only people with an insane amount of currency and shady gameplay are fully enjoying it.

Then we are not playing the same game apparently.

Sure, man. If you are killing pinnacle bosses, constantly finding invitations, omens and all that high end currency with your offmeta build, then you we are playing different games.

My off meta build (actually builds, since I have multiple) is so....I guess we are truly playing different games.

Is the game perfect? No. Does it have problems? Yes. Is there a lot to fix? Absolutely. Does loot feel pretty garbage right now? Definitely, but it did in PoE1 too (crafting is not loot), so what did we really expect? Is it unplayable? Fuck no.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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rastaqki#6957 wrote:

Oh, buddy.
You gave Cyberpunk as an example.
And said CD Projekt went into turbo mode.
It took them 2 years to fix the game with that turbo mode.

And you are complaining PoE 2 is not "fixed" after 2 months?
You are a complete joke.

In 2 months GGG published 2 updates .
In that same period of time after CP2077 release ( before Christmas = same as PoE 2 ) CDPR did EIGHT UPDATES :

Patch 1.12 2021/2/5
Patch 1.11 2021/1/28
Patch 1.1 2021/1/22
Patch 1.06 2020/12/23
Patch 1.05 2020/12/19
Patch 1.04 2020/12/12
Patch 1.03 2020/12/10
Patch 1.02 2020/12/10

Got what i meant with "turbo mode" now ?
And we ain't talking about GGG's one-liner-hotfixes : Patch 1.02 was 15GB .

But keep clowning about iT wilL bE fIx iN tWo yEaRs tOo when GGG is known for completely dropping season support two weeks after release , and have displayed the slowest updating pace possible so far : at this rate there's no way these 40.000 threads of bugs report about HALF A GAME get solved in the next 10 years .

Anyway how many fucking pages is the thread about crashes on PC already ?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594471/page/478

Oh damn , page 478 . Probably nothing .

You can post titles all you want, most of those patches did little. The game was horribly busted for over six months, where unique weapon and skill mechanics just straight up did not work. There's also a huge difference between a released game and an early beta. Most of the massive changes for CP2077 didn't come until their expansion patch that revamped half the game, which was at that aforementioned two year mark.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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rastaqki#6957 wrote:

Oh, buddy.
You gave Cyberpunk as an example.
And said CD Projekt went into turbo mode.
It took them 2 years to fix the game with that turbo mode.

And you are complaining PoE 2 is not "fixed" after 2 months?
You are a complete joke.

In 2 months GGG published 2 updates .
In that same period of time after CP2077 release ( before Christmas = same as PoE 2 ) CDPR did EIGHT UPDATES :

Patch 1.12 2021/2/5
Patch 1.11 2021/1/28
Patch 1.1 2021/1/22
Patch 1.06 2020/12/23
Patch 1.05 2020/12/19
Patch 1.04 2020/12/12
Patch 1.03 2020/12/10
Patch 1.02 2020/12/10

Got what i meant with "turbo mode" now ?
And we ain't talking about GGG's one-liner-hotfixes : Patch 1.02 was 15GB .

But keep clowning about iT wilL bE fIx iN tWo yEaRs tOo when GGG is known for completely dropping season support two weeks after release , and have displayed the slowest updating pace possible so far : at this rate there's no way these 40.000 threads of bugs report get solved in the next 10 years .

Anyway how many fucking pages is the thread about crashes on PC already ?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3594471/page/478

Oh damn , page 478 . Probably nothing .

Lul, so the number of updates and not the content of these updates decides if a company has "tUrBo MoDe"? That's a weak argumentation.

First of all, Cyberpunk was an ABSOLUTE mess and it was a full release for 70$. It was literally unplayable on console and with tons of bugs and crashes on PC. They HAD to update the game, because of its state. PoE2 is stable and playable. People have fun with it several hundreds of hours.

Secondly, have you read the patch nodes from Cyberpunk? All of these patches were only for stability. It was all about getting rid or bugs, errors and crashes. It was all about making the game at least playable, a state, that PoE2 already has and it's EA, while Cyberpunk was a full v1.0 release. Applauding CDProject for patching an absolute mess of a 1.0 game, but at the same time thrashing GGG because they only do "PR shit" and didn't release "8 patches within 8 weeks" (with 4 weeks on holiday) for an EA game is just so strange. Your argumentation begins to not make sense anymore and it's clear that you try to come up with anything to stick with your perception of GGG.

Like I said above: In your world, GGG is bad and evil. We understand that now. Keep believing that and enjoy your negativity. Meanwhile, I enjoy PoE2 and stay optimistic about it's development. And when it comes to me, they can even take 2 years to finish this game. I don't mind.