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Of course it is, that's exactly what it is. Not for the players, obviously, but for the creators. If you treat your job as a joke that you can leave for few weeks just like that because 'holidays', then I hope you're not a therapist, lawyer, or developer of a product that recently released.
Therapists and Lawyers operate in realms where their jobs affect the health and lives of their clients.
Very few Software Devs have those kinds of responsibility.
Maybe if it's software for a banking system.
Maybe if it's software for a mission critical system like Airport traffic control.
Maybe then the company providing that software will have teams on standby to achieve 99.99999% uptime because these are mission critical and lives can be lost.
You mean to say that a GAME is mission critical to require 99.99999% uptime?
Seriously?
You have no clue how industry or companies work.
He isn't stating it's in any way vital that it works.
He is stating that it is unprofessional to release a product right before xmas while the trade, economy, and huge exploits are ruining the game, alongside a giant load of other things, and they can't even be bothered to make a statement about it.
Frankly, this reminds me more of a single developer hyping a game for years, making a half assed sh*t producted and releasing it, cashing in 20 some millions, and then f'ing off never to be seen again.
Are you trying to tell me that in a company with 110 employees, not a single one of them could be bothered to take time to write a tiny roadmap or statement about the game going forward for three full weeks?
Don't ever try to run a company or go into management if that is the case.
ALL responsibility doesn't stop at "life or death" buddy.
Most of the world revolves around other things, and those have responsibility too.
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Posted byeldheim#2436on Jan 4, 2025, 1:18:42 PM
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But MUH ECONOMIES in an EA game where nothing will carry forward into the full release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted byRandall#0850on Jan 4, 2025, 1:20:39 PM
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You launched a game with 600.000 paying customers, did one patch after 10 days, then have left for three weeks.
You fixed one exploit, but not before the entire market and economy, which was already bad, was completely crashed.
A part of the player base are running around rich as f***, the other half can't get into any sort of gearing beyond SSF, which only gets people to final endgame if you have 250 hours of grinding available, or random super luck.
How is this catering to 600k players?
It's not even been a month, and you not only peaked, but you lost more than half of the paying player base.
There are a handful of mechanics in the game that is simply not working.
There are dozens of things most people blatantly dislike.
the graph of players quitting is growing steeper by the minute. You are bleeding players.
Respect your paying customers -YES PAYING, IT'S NOT "A FREE GAME", enough to at the very least address the issues and intent going onwards in a written statement.
Give us a roadmap, a reason to come back to the game. At this point I'm completely fed up with the entire studio.
No, most people do not have three weeks off for holidays over Xmas. Especially when they dropped a product 600k people paid for, EA or not, with glaring game breaking issues.
It's time to show us you care.
Hate to break it to you the world isnt fair and you will always have winners and losers. Disregarding the rest of your post as New Zealand has holiday laws that I don't expect someone not from there to understand.
You will always be behind the top players, you will always be in the bottom % if you don't take the time to learn the game, you will always lose with a losing mindset.
Don't be a Timmy, be a Spike.
Oh great, all 600.000 paying customers either needs to be in the top 1% winning playing it for 100 hours a week or else they are losers? That it?
Great, what a lovely person you are.
Secondly, let me inform you on New Zealand's holiday laws, which you so bravely put up in their defense.
They are entitled to a TOTAL of four weeks for the entire year.
They have four days by law over Xmas and new year. Four.
So yeah, tell me more about how it's completely unreasonable and too much to ask to have one single of the 110 employees to spend an hour making a written statement about the road going forward, their intentions and a bit of a timeline.
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Posted byeldheim#2436on Jan 4, 2025, 1:24:21 PM
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They have 250 employees or something now, which is funny with the amount of updates and communication we got these release
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Posted byAlivkos#3986on Jan 4, 2025, 1:27:58 PM
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But MUH ECONOMIES in an EA game where nothing will carry forward into the full release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you think its good for GGG and the player base to operate the game in a fully broken state for another 18-24 months, which is how long this easily could take?
If you are against a reset of the economy it's only because you already massively benefitted from being able to play 200 hours in a month, got full magic find gear and have farmed insane drops getting in the top 5% of the economy, terrified that your duped items will go away.
For the rest of the players, everyone with a bit of common sense knows it needs resetting.
Thousands of "Temporalis" chest pieces was duped with multiple instances cheat.
It literally made a very few people insanely rich, and a few thousand people are now running insanely broken builds on the back of that, amassing all the drops and loot in the game, flooding the marked with divines, making the normal drop for most casual players -exalts, worthless.
And magic find gear prices have skyrocketed, so they can no longer get into the top of the economy without cheating or buying currency.
THIS is what you are advocating for. Tell me you are a cheater without telling me you are a cheater.
Either that, or you are foolish enough to defend it.
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Posted byeldheim#2436on Jan 4, 2025, 1:30:13 PM
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Look… if they aren’t working they aren’t going to cobble together a half-assed statement to appease some people who are currently having a tough time.
It will backfire. You may not think it will. You may think, “nah, if they address the concerns everyone will be okay!” But it won’t. People will take issue with what was and wasn’t addressed, a lack of specific timelines or fixes or the style of fixes.
This wouldn’t go how you’d want it to.
This is a much better route they are taking. Take the time off, come back to the office, get thoughts together, address the issues and push the content forward with new classes and items (which, for what it’s worth may fix a lot of the issues).
I know it’s hard. People want all the puzzle pieces to fit together now.
But we ordered a puzzle that the art wasn’t finished on 700 of the 1000 pieces. We need to understand the other 700 are coming, but when they are ready.
Continue to provide constructive feedback, by all means. But no one is interrupting a vacation to half ass address some issues and piss even more people off. Doesn’t sound relaxing or intelligent to do so.
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Posted byKoSh9984#2725on Jan 4, 2025, 1:32:50 PM
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Look… if they aren’t working they aren’t going to cobble together a half-assed statement to appease some people who are currently having a tough time.
It will backfire. You may not think it will. You may think, “nah, if they address the concerns everyone will be okay!” But it won’t. People will take issue with what was and wasn’t addressed, a lack of specific timelines or fixes or the style of fixes.
This wouldn’t go how you’d want it to.
This is a much better route they are taking. Take the time off, come back to the office, get thoughts together, address the issues and push the content forward with new classes and items (which, for what it’s worth may fix a lot of the issues).
I know it’s hard. People want all the puzzle pieces to fit together now.
But we ordered a puzzle that the art wasn’t finished on 700 of the 300 pieces. We need to understand the other 700 are coming, but when they are ready.
Continue to provide constructive feedback, by all means. But no one is interrupting a vacation to half ass address some issues and piss even more people off. Doesn’t sound relaxing or intelligent to do so.
Exactly! thanks
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Posted bybennisen#4006on Jan 4, 2025, 1:37:15 PM
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I asked about this in general chat and they all said "you stupid American, you don't understand that Europeans value time off and take extended holidays!" I guess New Zealand is part of Europe now? Anyway, this just makes GGG look extremely lazy and uninterested in supporting a game that they just released into early access.
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Posted byMrTipples62#7505on Jan 4, 2025, 1:39:01 PM
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Look… if they aren’t working they aren’t going to cobble together a half-assed statement to appease some people who are currently having a tough time.
It will backfire. You may not think it will. You may think, “nah, if they address the concerns everyone will be okay!” But it won’t. People will take issue with what was and wasn’t addressed, a lack of specific timelines or fixes or the style of fixes.
This wouldn’t go how you’d want it to.
This is a much better route they are taking. Take the time off, come back to the office, get thoughts together, address the issues and push the content forward with new classes and items (which, for what it’s worth may fix a lot of the issues).
I know it’s hard. People want all the puzzle pieces to fit together now.
But we ordered a puzzle that the art wasn’t finished on 700 of the 300 pieces. We need to understand the other 700 are coming, but when they are ready.
Continue to provide constructive feedback, by all means. But no one is interrupting a vacation to half ass address some issues and piss even more people off. Doesn’t sound relaxing or intelligent to do so.
Let me ask you this.
If YOU where the game director for a game company, and you released a game a week before xmas, and more or less ALL of your 250 workers would be on holiday for three full weeks right thereafter and the forums are pouring down with criticism, and 250.000 of the 600.000 that paid has left, would you happily just sip wine and "think about it" at January the sixth"?
If so, I presume you work at GGG, and not a company that cares about 250.000 unhappy customers, and actually take on the responsibility behind making the choice to release it right before the entire company shuts down for almost a month.
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Posted byeldheim#2436on Jan 4, 2025, 1:40:04 PM
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Look… if they aren’t working they aren’t going to cobble together a half-assed statement to appease some people who are currently having a tough time.
It will backfire. You may not think it will. You may think, “nah, if they address the concerns everyone will be okay!” But it won’t. People will take issue with what was and wasn’t addressed, a lack of specific timelines or fixes or the style of fixes.
This wouldn’t go how you’d want it to.
This is a much better route they are taking. Take the time off, come back to the office, get thoughts together, address the issues and push the content forward with new classes and items (which, for what it’s worth may fix a lot of the issues).
I know it’s hard. People want all the puzzle pieces to fit together now.
But we ordered a puzzle that the art wasn’t finished on 700 of the 300 pieces. We need to understand the other 700 are coming, but when they are ready.
Continue to provide constructive feedback, by all means. But no one is interrupting a vacation to half ass address some issues and piss even more people off. Doesn’t sound relaxing or intelligent to do so.
Let me ask you this.
If YOU where the game director for a game company, and you released a game a week before xmas, and more or less ALL of your 250 workers would be on holiday for three full weeks right thereafter and the forums are pouring down with criticism, and 250.000 of the 600.000 that paid has left, would you happily just sip wine and "think about it" at January the sixth"?
If so, I presume you work at GGG, and not a company that cares about 250.000 unhappy customers, and actually take on the responsibility behind making the choice to release it right before the entire company shuts down for almost a month.
Don't even try, these people will defend what a terrible company GGG is until the day they die.
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Posted byMrTipples62#7505on Jan 4, 2025, 1:41:28 PM
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