The silence is deafening

Also I think GGG doesn't have enough resources to act really fast.

Amount of data and feedback they got is probably 20x bigger than they expected before the launch.

334k people are playing right now on Steam.

Game is a huge success but I think we need to be patient and understanding. We want them to act 100% correct and no with rush and chaos.

I can agree that they should communicate better, silence for weeks is just bad business decision.

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Tencent is developing the game?
Tencent has provided working capital.
That's "money" in laymans terms.

In my 30 year long career in Software Dev, I have never ever ever seen a pile of money code or debug any piece of software.

Tencent money is not doing the work.
The work is being done by a small team of developers, who (I again stress) are human and (I again stress) are deserving of HUMAN things like time off.

Their GAME (again I stress) is not mission critical.
Your hurt feelings about their game is not mission critical.

You are not entitled to deny other people their well deserved time off because you have strong feelings about a game.

then why do people call it ACTIVISION-Blizzard?

you're so out of touch mate

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koolfashion#6996 wrote:

Also I think GGG doesn't have enough resources to act really fast.

Amount of data and feedback they got is probably 20x bigger than they expected before the launch.

334k people are playing right now on Steam.

Game is a huge success but I think we need to be patient and understanding. We want them to act 100% correct and no with rush and chaos.

I can agree that they should communicate better, silence for weeks is just bad business decision.

Right, defend the company that couldn't hire Q&A team, released a bunch of poe1 reused assets, got free beta testers + sold packs up to 480 dollars.
Even Blizzard ain't looking that bad compared to poe2, and i didn't play blizzard games since 2012

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Even Blizzard ain't looking that bad compared to poe2, and i didn't play blizzard games since 2012

You can't be serious.

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Prügelprinz#9311 wrote:

You can't be serious.

Trolls rarely are.

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Prügelprinz#9311 wrote:

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Even Blizzard ain't looking that bad compared to poe2, and i didn't play blizzard games since 2012

You can't be serious.

I am. What exactly separates Tencent owned GGG from the likes of Blizzard?
They have same operating mentality and Diablo 3 might have even been better than poe2 at this point.

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Prügelprinz#9311 wrote:

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Even Blizzard ain't looking that bad compared to poe2, and i didn't play blizzard games since 2012

You can't be serious.

Tbh has blizzard ever released a patch and then when radio silent because it's the holidays? say what you want but they have standards

They released a game and only 8 days after release they depart from the office for 21 days. oh and they had no problem taking peoples 500 usd "supporter packs" while they sip egg nog while people get hacked and economy is destroyed. so yeah blizzard is looking good

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eldheim#2436 wrote:

You launched a game with 600.000 paying customers, did one patch after 10 days, then have left for three weeks.

You fixed one exploit, but not before the entire market and economy, which was already bad, was completely crashed.

A part of the player base are running around rich as f***, the other half can't get into any sort of gearing beyond SSF, which only gets people to final endgame if you have 250 hours of grinding available, or random super luck.
How is this catering to 600k players?

It's not even been a month, and you not only peaked, but you lost more than half of the paying player base.

There are a handful of mechanics in the game that is simply not working.
There are dozens of things most people blatantly dislike.

the graph of players quitting is growing steeper by the minute. You are bleeding players.

Respect your paying customers -YES PAYING, IT'S NOT "A FREE GAME", enough to at the very least address the issues and intent going onwards in a written statement.

Give us a roadmap, a reason to come back to the game. At this point I'm completely fed up with the entire studio.

No, most people do not have three weeks off for holidays over Xmas. Especially when they dropped a product 600k people paid for, EA or not, with glaring game breaking issues.

It's time to show us you care.

Clearly frustrated, but makes some valid points.

* Developers are people and do need to take time off.
* It doesn't take an entire dev team to put up some posts and I highly doubt the entire company just shut down.
* GGG choose to release this around Christmas time, not the players. You should have expected issues and seen this coming. It was bad planning to not have had something in place to address this ahead of time.
* It would have been nice to hear something. It is Christmas, and the devs need time off. We don't need a full road plan, but a little bit would have gone a long way.

* There are a lot of problems with this game.
* It should be expected that there will be drop off with any ea, but this is a known property and you did release a pretty much finished end-game. Drop-off would be expected if people simply finished the game, but that isn't the case here.
* There was clear hype, but people are clearly leaving because they don't like what they found

What is confusing is that I think many of us are right there on the edge of wanting to support this thing, but GGG holds their ground on the things gating people from this game, even though there are perfectly good alternatives.

I am one of them. I am willing to give you money, if you just utilize the framework you have already set up.

Examples...

Why do you even bother having leagues if the following are going to be present in all of them

* use death penalties

* restrict access to currency so people can't buy good gear unless they make PoE a full-time job

* create a trading system that can bypass those restrictions, but don't incorporate it into the game

* advocate build diversity, but have ritual, delirium and breach mobs micro stun and kill you in 2 seconds

I don't need answers right away, but I will not come back if I don't get answers at some point in 2025 about what this game is supposed to be. Because right now it feels like a grinding Souls game when I got the impression you were expanding it and making it more accessible.

And I'm tired of being gaslit by the core base saying "get good" or "just play more". Yeah, I'm good with all those things, but, again, there is a middle ground between 1000+ hours and play 1 hour a week casual, and all we get from GGG is crumbs.

It doesn't have to be right this second, Dev's 100% deserve a holiday because they are real people. A lot of people are waiting to hear if this game is a worthwhile investment of their time, however, and at a certain point it will become downright disrespectful if we don't hear anything when people had the expectation that this was an opportunity to open the door for more players.

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toxiitea#5772 wrote:

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Prügelprinz#9311 wrote:

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Even Blizzard ain't looking that bad compared to poe2, and i didn't play blizzard games since 2012

You can't be serious.

Tbh has blizzard ever released a patch and then when radio silent because it's the holidays? say what you want but they have standards

They released a game and only 8 days after release they depart from the office for 21 days. oh and they had no problem taking peoples 500 usd "supporter packs" while they sip egg nog while people get hacked and economy is destroyed. so yeah blizzard is looking good

I can't really disagree on that. blizzard products might be shallow but yeah, the lack of communication here ''cuz vacation'' sounds just arrogance.

no one is asking for a huge patch mid vacation or anything. but complete silence after paying so much ADS and youtube promotion is just weird.

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koolfashion#6996 wrote:

I strongly believe that at least half of the company was working during this period except few days and we will see something big in coming days.

If anyone thinks that whole company left for 3 weeks after launching the biggest product of their lifes...you are in the wrong mindset.

If that was true why not take, say, 30 minutes to write up a "we hear you, here's the next steps" post? Don't need a patch over the holidays, but a quick text update on what their plans are moving forward would go a long way.

I don't expect that post until like Wednesday at the earliest, they're probably going to have a lot of meetings monday/tuesday to go over the feedback and come up with an action plan. If they already had an action plan and were cooking up a big patch why not take the extra few minutes to outline the biggest changes they're working on?

1. You need the right staff available to parse through the problems.
2. You then need the right staff available to come up with viable options to solve those problems, and what is feasible in a reasonable development time.
3. Then you need the right staff available to make the final decisions on what is actually going to go through.
4. Then you need the right staff available to write that post.
5. Then the players will still bitch because the problem they care about wasn't included.
6. Then the players will still bitch because the problems aren't solved fast enough.
7. Then the players will still bitch because there isn't another update.
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... correct? which is why I don't think they've been cooking up a banger update, I think they're on vacation (and that's fine honestly). I was responding to someone who made the claim that they've mostly been in office working on a big update, I'm just saying if that were true they could have given us any indication of what they are working on. Either they are on vacation and not working on an update because they don't have the staff to collate the feedback and come up with an action plan which is very understandable (even if I think it was a bad choice), or they're working on a secret update without saying anything (hard to program in the updates if there's no actual plan for what that update is... if there's a plan let us know) then that's a truly odd choice for them to make.