GGG desperately trying to reinvent the wheel and ending up with a square.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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Dxt44#4050 wrote:

People pay taxes, and often it is said in the context as if we are authorized to decide how they should be spent. People speak in this way, but they don’t say it seriously. I don’t know if you live in a cave and never leave your house, but that’s how it looks.

You're joking....they absolutely DO say it seriously! And they are just as wrong as these posts. People ACTUALLY think they are entitled to things because they pay taxes. Parents who rail at schoolboard meetings ACTUALLY think they know what's best for education. The people who speak out ABSOLUTELY believe what they say. That's why they say it!

Well, in a democracy, while people don't directly have a say in how their taxes are spent, how the current administration spends the money affects how the people vote in the next election. So, there is some degree of influence.

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GregoryAdams#7051 wrote:

Well, in a democracy, while people don't directly have a say in how their taxes are spent, how the current administration spends the money affects how the people vote in the next election. So, there is some degree of influence.

Yes...if we are talking taxes. But I already said purchases in this game are NOT like taxes. Also "influence" is very different from "control".

Because. they. are. PURCHASES. You are buying a product, and you receive said product. The transaction is done. You aren't buying a subscription, you aren't buying a seat at the table, you aren't buying a lobby token. You are buying a finite, immediate product. With the knowledge and the written agreement that GGG can do whatever they want after that.

Taxes are irrelevant and a false comparison. They are a mandatory part of society, and they are continuous.

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DIOandTheWorld#7430 wrote:

Yes citizens are 100% entitled to get things they want from society with the taxes they pay. Thats literally the purpose of taxes.

This is a very innocent way to look at an involuntary system you didn't create and have no influence over on almost any level.

Back to the topic. They need to get back to learning from the positives in the diablo series instead of running away from them. The calls for the auction house are a great example of how people are so mad they are proposing something that didn't work well in diablo for many years because of how bad the current POE systems function.

People are also building around specific broken armor and putting prices on builds. Having to pay for respecs. Having to collect more uncut gems to respec skills, these are all lessons learned from D2 and early D3.

Complaining that people are clearing too fast while having complex skill interactions and cast on X skills that are clearly going to kill everything on screen unless you nerf them into uselessness.

I actually like CORE dynamics of POE2 much better then POE1 -- feels like it needs more character control skills and rewards it. And I always hated epileptic zooming of POE1 (just subjectivly, I know people love it).

That said, game currently has huge amounts of issues.

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- Unnecessary large maps
- Boring, uninspired act 3
- Asc Trials!
- Crafting
- All sorts of balance things

You name it, list can be continued.

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DIOandTheWorld#7430 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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DIOandTheWorld#7430 wrote:

We do get the right to criticize its garbage vision however, and to demand changes for improvement.

"Demand"
Tell me you're American without telling me you're American

Well I'm not?
Yes I can demand a better product since the one I paid for was not what I was lead to believe I was getting.

Another person who gets banned because they're asking for the product that was promised.
Yes. If the game is advertised as a live service game, it's more than fair to demand for the main point of this type of game, which is the constant updates. Which didn't happen since, well, the developers of this shitty game simply released the game in a deplorable state and went on vacation, and to hell with the players.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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GregoryAdams#7051 wrote:

Well, in a democracy, while people don't directly have a say in how their taxes are spent, how the current administration spends the money affects how the people vote in the next election. So, there is some degree of influence.

Yes...if we are talking taxes. But I already said purchases in this game are NOT like taxes. Also "influence" is very different from "control".

Because. they. are. PURCHASES. You are buying a product, and you receive said product. The transaction is done. You aren't buying a subscription, you aren't buying a seat at the table, you aren't buying a lobby token. You are buying a finite, immediate product. With the knowledge and the written agreement that GGG can do whatever they want after that.

Taxes are irrelevant and a false comparison. They are a mandatory part of society, and they are continuous.

It is actually quite similar. Much like an elected politician wants to make sure that their voters are happy with how their taxes are spent to ensure that they get re-elected, a business wants to make sure that its customers are happy, so that they continue purchasing their products.

So, in this case, it is reasonable that GGG at least somewhat concern themselves with the feedback of someone, who might purchase a supporter pack in the future. And of course, someone, who has purchased one in the past, is more likely to purchase one again in the future, and their opinion might therefore be given a somewhat greater weight.

PoE2 was originally going to replace PoE1. It was as the game developed further and they realized it would diverge harshly from PoE1 in a lot of ways that they decided it would be wise to make them seperate games, as they knew the new game probably wouldn't appeal to a lot of the original game's fans due to the changes.

I don't understand why people who want PoE2 to be more like PoE1 can't just play that?
They're maintaining both of them, it's not either or.

I like that PoE2 does this differently and if it went back to being like PoE1 is now I would quit again, same as I did with PoE1. I've been having a lot of fun with PoE2, rough around the edges as it is at the moment.

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DIOandTheWorld#7430 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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DIOandTheWorld#7430 wrote:

We do get the right to criticize its garbage vision however, and to demand changes for improvement.

"Demand"
Tell me you're American without telling me you're American

Well I'm not?
Yes I can demand a better product since the one I paid for was not what I was lead to believe I was getting.

Then apparently you didn't pay attention at all to what they were selling.

They sold POE2 as a different experience, a harder one... hey, look, that's what we got.