Toxic Streamers are attempting to ruin POE2. Damage limits would be a good idea.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

No, you can't comprehend how seeing extremely dodgeable boss rotations more than you need to means you enjoy wasting time. You're going to hate maps because they're PoE 1 style mobs and behaviors and you NEED to blast lol. It's not the bosses you need to worry about. You'll die to huge packs swarming you and on death effects, off screen one shots and all the other screen clutter PoE1 goodies because you don't have the tools you need to deal with that in PoE two. EXP also slows down tremendously so your slow-play deaths are going to destroy your progress completely. It'll take you weeks to recover. You know in 2026 when you make it to maps.

lol again pretty funny that you can't see what direction this game wants to take. the death penalty and recent balance announcements are a clear indication of this.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

this is a discussion about dmg limits, not nerfs. it is abut limiting the extend to whihc the player can 'play well' as you put it. i would put it as 'how much the player is allowed to trivialize the game'- and these measures were done many times in poe1 as i mentioned already. it is irrational to expect they will abandon this approach all of a sudden, especially in a game which heavily hints at the exact opposite.

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IcyMistV#5121 wrote:

ADDITIONAL SOLUTION: if damage limits with a sliding percentage are implemented then how about for boss damage as well? one hit kills? what if the incidence of one hit kills would drop? not entirely removed but happen with less frequency.

damage to bosses can have sliding scale reduction if you have massive dps.... and bosses too will deal less damage with their ''one hit'' mega damage skills. of course having a poorly geared character should still mean death. so this just has to be applied in a creative and clever fashion.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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Auralysist#4050 wrote:

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

this is a discussion about dmg limits, not nerfs. it is abut limiting the extend to whihc the player can 'play well' as you put it. i would put it as 'how much the player is allowed to trivialize the game'- and these measures were done many times in poe1 as i mentioned already. it is irrational to expect they will abandon this approach all of a sudden, especially in a game which heavily hints at the exact opposite.

Damage limits are nerfs, no matter how you view it. It's still affecting the players ability to push the limits of the game. No matter what you intend for something, people won't play by your expectations. There's an entire category of people who push the absolute limits of every game they play, called speedrunners.

ugh, again, these 'nerfs' as you call them now are nothing new. so you thinking its 'bad' or 'will cause everyone to quit' is not true. i'm not gonna repeat myself, i stated many of them in my previous post

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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rob_korn#1745 wrote:

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IcyMistV#5121 wrote:

ADDITIONAL SOLUTION: if damage limits with a sliding percentage are implemented then how about for boss damage as well? one hit kills? what if the incidence of one hit kills would drop? not entirely removed but happen with less frequency.

damage to bosses can have sliding scale reduction if you have massive dps.... and bosses too will deal less damage with their ''one hit'' mega damage skills. of course having a poorly geared character should still mean death. so this just has to be applied in a creative and clever fashion.

That' hilarious. No for real. Let me tell you how.
In PoE1, yes PoE1, there is a mechanic on uber bosses. They have 90% damage mitigation at the start of the fight, and that mitigation goes away overtime. That way big DD can show off his burst, and lower DPS can wait few seconds and still take the boss down.

Sooooooo, are you saying we should do like PoE1 ?

bro is just trying to innovate, don;t be mean man lol

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

Funny how you can't see the balance the game wants to take with the loot fixes. Have you seen the reddit? People have fixed the majority of cast-on builds from what I saw, so that playstyle is back on the menu. Enough people haven't hit maps yet and if they all play like you they may not. You're going to quit when you get to maps. I'm being 100% sincere. I'm managing the death penalty just fine. It is too severe and it's going to cause a lot of people to quit. You know what GGG does when people quit, right? That's right, they fix it like the loot, lol. Just try to hit maps already.

if you managing, why reduce it? lol

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Auralysist#4050 wrote:

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

this is a discussion about dmg limits, not nerfs. it is abut limiting the extend to whihc the player can 'play well' as you put it. i would put it as 'how much the player is allowed to trivialize the game'- and these measures were done many times in poe1 as i mentioned already. it is irrational to expect they will abandon this approach all of a sudden, especially in a game which heavily hints at the exact opposite.

Damage limits are nerfs, no matter how you view it. It's still affecting the players ability to push the limits of the game. No matter what you intend for something, people won't play by your expectations. There's an entire category of people who push the absolute limits of every game they play, called speedrunners.

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IcyMistV#5121 wrote:

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Auralysist#4050 wrote:

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

this is a discussion about dmg limits, not nerfs. it is abut limiting the extend to whihc the player can 'play well' as you put it. i would put it as 'how much the player is allowed to trivialize the game'- and these measures were done many times in poe1 as i mentioned already. it is irrational to expect they will abandon this approach all of a sudden, especially in a game which heavily hints at the exact opposite.

Damage limits are nerfs, no matter how you view it. It's still affecting the players ability to push the limits of the game. No matter what you intend for something, people won't play by your expectations. There's an entire category of people who push the absolute limits of every game they play, called speedrunners.

speedrunning is a horrible way to play. most gamers... when you look beyond the streamer community just want to have fun and play a good game. they don't care about blasting through in record time.


but what i am suggesting is this: you can still speedrun.... and still beat maps quickly... but when you get to the boss instead of it being a 5-10 second fight because your build is OP maybe it takes 35 seconds. So some level of survival would have to kick in and the devs who spend countless hours designing these bosses don't have their work gone to waste and the player gets to actually see the boss mechanics. I don't think any of them intended for the bosses to die rapidly.

people are so individualistic unfortunately and the big picture i think is lost

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ArchaonMTL#1186 wrote:

Oh look OP is a self-appointed thought and behavior prefect. Mental.

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IcyMistV#5121 wrote:

speedrunning is a horrible way to play. most gamers... when you look beyond the streamer community just want to have fun and play a good game. they don't care about blasting through in record time.


but what i am suggesting is this: you can still speedrun.... and still beat maps quickly... but when you get to the boss instead of it being a 5-10 second fight because your build is OP maybe it takes 35 seconds. So some level of survival would have to kick in and the devs who spend countless hours designing these bosses don't have their work gone to waste and the player gets to actually see the boss mechanics. I don't think any of them intended for the bosses to die rapidly.

people are so individualistic unfortunately and the big picture i think is lost