Poe 2 - Analysis. Result of Professional deformation and degradation of game design?
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Which is completly irrelevant to your analysis of arpg as a genre, future of PoE and PROFESSIONAL DEFORMATION AND DEGRADATION OF GAME DESIGN
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" What are you talking about anyway? I've been sitting on the forum for 1 day, and I keep seeing you passively and aggressively attacking people here. Maybe you'll find out more constructively, preferably highlighting my phrases, or just won't write? Although of course it's your right. My right not to react Третьего дня, по совету проверенных комрадов, приобрел мегадевайс - пробку "Кудуку3000". По приходу домой жадными цепкими лапами распаковал и заюзал мегадевайс. Размер - моё почтение. Даже мой привыкший к рфу чифтейн отказался принимать с первого раза.
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" Passive attack is you in the nutshell, even the title is euphemism type of insult, then follows an insufferable, overblown, full of itself rant masquarading as serious analysis. That is what I'm attacking, also again: You and your lameplay mathematician friends come here entitled as fuck just to demand the devs to destroy all the mechanics they build to get your calculator clicker back. Go play PoE 1 with your crew and show the world the superiority and properness of the numbers approach, with the same numbers you love so much. |
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" I don't play parties, and I can't physically demand anything from anyone, the developers won't even see this post, and I wrote about it directly. The title of the post is not aggression, because professional deformation is not inherently negative. This is just my attempt to guess why they make the decisions they do based on the interviews I've watched and their statements. The word "degradation" is a bad word, yes, but it is also descriptive, and is used in scientific articles. Degradation is the reverse of progress, and both of these processes can go in different directions. For me, this is degradation, and I explained why I think so. You can try to shut me up because obviously you don't like it when people disagree with you, but that won't stop me. The fact that you're annoyed by my "attempt at scientific analysis" and that you see it as "pretending to be a nerd" or something like that is your problem. Many people here agree with me about what has been said. I am a representative of a very specific audience of the game that exists, and which has been playing this game for many years for specific reasons. Now some of this has been lost, and I'm pointing it out. Is this a problem for you? Good. Log out of the forum. They give feedback here, not attack people. P.S It's interesting that you immediately listed me as a party player, as if I were doing some strange abuses of game mechanics with ton of math, and also stole your bread yesterday. But no, I'm just making non-meta builds, mostly Flicker Strike - for myself and for the soul Третьего дня, по совету проверенных комрадов, приобрел мегадевайс - пробку "Кудуку3000". По приходу домой жадными цепкими лапами распаковал и заюзал мегадевайс. Размер - моё почтение. Даже мой привыкший к рфу чифтейн отказался принимать с первого раза. Last edited by theslavagame#6814 on Dec 12, 2024, 12:43:35 PM
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GGG is dumbing down the game and it's really sad. This is like making The Rings Of Power out of The Lord Of The Rings. Last edited by Kamstew#1014 on Dec 12, 2024, 12:36:49 PM
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" By crew I meant the "make PoE 2 into 1" crew The devs made this so you utilise multiple skills, play tactical, dodge, pay attention, react. Opposite to what number approach usually devolves into, 1 skill 1 click spam. Can you respect or appreciate that? No you have to come and demand and ruin for devs and players. Don't worry they might fail anyway, it's very hard to do what they try and easily broken, you're not helping though that's for sure. Post is in feedback, devs will or will not read, their game design degraded and is deformed because you say so. Yes it was pseudo scientific, same arguments like 100s made before just overblown and pretentious, also cheap claims of positivity to pretend that you care somehow and this is constructive feedback. PoE 1 still there, with some advantages, imo like music, theme, world, more freedom in building and yes zoom if you need that. I will play it again 100%, go do the same and save the pseudo merit wishlists for yourself. Last edited by Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 on Dec 12, 2024, 12:44:53 PM
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@OP - Do not listen to the fans of POE Ruthless version running amuck everywhere to defend the current state of game. Good post and some good points. After playing continuously since EA launch can relate to a lot of it if not everything. I was especially curious about your point of the developers making a game they like or a game that they would like us to play vis-a-vis what players want to play. But it seems there are a few who like the current state of game as well so maybe GGG wants to target them and build something that they would like us to play. You also made a great point about understanding the depth and breadth of POE system vis-a-vis a more mechanical expertise required to play the current version. Frankly I don't mind either, but you are right we do spend a considerable time on this and in return the least I ask is to have fun which is subjective. However, a slow game, silly movement skills, lack of build diversity, some of the issues you pointed out has just taken the excitement and steam out; I don't want to even talk about the trials which is a saga on its own :)--a poster went as far as likening it to cancer. Perhaps time to do other stuff and come back later to check if POE 2 is still the ruthless version or some fun is allowed. Even the new mechanical themes are just too clunky and silly. Wanted to try something new with the crossbow--MY GOD who came up with a brilliantly stupid idea of reloading bolts, then delay in shooting ...by the time you are done with that you are dead. Hindsight shouldn't have bought early access but hey GGG did make a great game in POE 1 so no regrets, but no POE 2 is not the amazing/fabulous/.... game that some ruthless fanboys would want us to believe. It's funny as it seems GGG is desperately trying to justify a vast end game by making the playstyle slow + clunky and map layouts long + complex. Peace.... |
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" You are using the classic approach of dismissing my arguments as if I didn't really say anything. But I did. All of the things you listed are possible in the game, given what I want. Moreover, they were in PoE 1 - in PoE 1 you couldn't beat some bosses without knowing the tactics, especially in the leagues they came out in. Uber bosses were unbeatable for many even after a while, despite the possibility of getting absurd power in the game. However, there was also the need to build your own build. The connection between "math" and "watch for attacks, dodge, execute strategy like in WoW" is what I think PoE 2 has lost so far, and it worries me now. I know it can be fixed. That's why I never said the game was doomed, but as an active player I can't stay silent either. And yeah, if I didn't care, I wouldn't have written this post, and you wouldn't have responded to it. People who don't care don't do that. Третьего дня, по совету проверенных комрадов, приобрел мегадевайс - пробку "Кудуку3000". По приходу домой жадными цепкими лапами распаковал и заюзал мегадевайс. Размер - моё почтение. Даже мой привыкший к рфу чифтейн отказался принимать с первого раза.
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I’m going to stop you at “funded by POE players”. You gave them your money in exchange for something. The money then became theirs. Then they used their money to make something different. It’s not like you’re an investor that has any right to feel cheated.
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" Tbh, I think the impression of Poe 2 is largely formed not only by the core mechanics, but also by a lot of little things like the bolts you mentioned, or the very large maps. All these weird little decisions are too annoying, and the core of the game is not interesting enough right now to not pay attention to the little things. I'm sure that if we had all the declared content now - there would be significantly fewer complaints, because there would be significantly more options. With time, most likely, this will return to normal, at least I hope so. Третьего дня, по совету проверенных комрадов, приобрел мегадевайс - пробку "Кудуку3000". По приходу домой жадными цепкими лапами распаковал и заюзал мегадевайс. Размер - моё почтение. Даже мой привыкший к рфу чифтейн отказался принимать с первого раза.
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