[PSA] You're in EARLY ACCESS, give feedback but don't expect your character to be intact

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Qasdfghytr#0064 wrote:

Your link is bad info. This is not an Alpha. It is basically an open beta that requires you to pay to play.
Alphas are far different.

The problem is that they are not advertising it as a beta, they are calling it "early access" which historically was used to describe games in a pre-launch state. It was a term used for people that would get access to a game like a week or so before the official launch. The description of the early access for this is that it is a paid beta test.

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

nonsense

I've already linked you dozens of sources that present different definition (that lined up with one another) to one you made up. As you're very eager to ask for sources please provide one that states your definition. Best more than one.
Until then, the definition I provided is one we're going to abide to and by that definition we're very much in alpha state.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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Qasdfghytr#0064 wrote:

Your link is bad info. This is not an Alpha. It is basically an open beta that requires you to pay to play.
Alphas are far different.

The problem is that they are not advertising it as a beta, they are calling it "early access" which historically was used to describe games in a pre-launch state. It was a term used for people that would get access to a game like a week or so before the official launch. The description of the early access for this is that it is a paid beta test.

Thats a lie and you know it. EA games, every single one of them were not close to launch, far from it. Most of them were lacking more than half of the intended content. You are thinking about headstart, that not the same thing.

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Perq#4049 wrote:

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GodzillaMagnum#6452 wrote:

It's just about the fact they have completely singled out and screwed some players with no compensation. The game is literally unplayable for a lot of people now and they have to spend all day farming trash to sell to vendors to respec because the devs happened to single them out.

Respecs should be free during a testing period to encourage experimentation so that they can gather more data anyway. This is just a really bad look on their part.

Completely agree with the second point, but at the same time they way want to try and "force" people into rerolling so that they get more stats from early game.
Personally I don't think that is way to go and they should just give easier way to respec so that people can continue, but on the other hand its been few days and I'd say game development is more important (at this stage) than characters made.
This is especially true since there will be changes to more systems than just skills and they may create changes big enough to brick characters, no matter what tools they provide to players. They may even have to wipe the characters completely at some point.
Its just that I'm getting an impression (and literal statements in case of this thread) that people think this is the finished game that they can expect to play comfortably and I think it is a problem (maybe it was not communicated well enough by devs, I dunno).

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Lirian21#5669 wrote:

PSA: Your brownnosing (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/brown_noser#:~:text=brown%20noser%20(plural%20brown%20nosers,%2C%20ass-kisser%2C%20sycophant)) is quite apparent, considering your strange obsession with linking definitions. It's as if you think it contributes or matters in any discussion on this topic. The fact is, you're just talking out of your nose. Unless you're willing to provide your credentials to back up your claims, it seems like you're offering an imitation of knowledge about the industry and topics like CI/CD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_integration) and the roadmap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadmap_(product_management)) and lifecycle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_development_life_cycle) that professionals follow, please refrain from criticizing others' complaints, especially when this is a paid experience (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_(marketing)).

You seem to have a strange sense of privilege (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_(social_inequality)) and entitlement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entitlement_(psychology)). I'd prefer that you don't comment when you, yourself, know nothing.

All complaints are valid when the client (you and everyone else) pays for a service, which in this case, everyone did. I'd love to see this argument presented in front of a room full of shareholders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareholder): "Oh, don't worry, guys. We're an imaging and workflow solution, but we decided that image processing isn't necessary. It's for the betterment of the solution as a whole; I'm sure we won't lose clients. There's no way this decision affects our bottom line—don't worry." It's not like POE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_of_Exile) is on the global stage for the first time with eyes everywhere, and bad decisions like this can completely destroy its image. Let’s not complain and let the process unfold.

I'd look into Helldivers 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helldivers_2)’s history a bit to see how well this kind of “process” turned out for the general game.

You are so far off the rails that it’s honestly an interesting read.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

But the characters from EA will be put in special league. You wont even have them on standard.

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Lirian21#5669 wrote:

obnoxiously formatted nonsense