I am worried that GGG might listen to the whiny "game too difficult :(" crowd

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Jokke1989#7206 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Jokke1989#7206 wrote:

This guy funded the game
Seems he has more invested into it than you
Yet you seems to tell PoE 1 they don't care about PoE 2

If he invested as much time engaging with the mechanics as money, he wouldn't need to complain about game difficulty online.

PS: Coming with a second account is pathetic. And yes, it's obvious because your 2nd account has the same shitty "can't quote properly" pattern. lol

I'm not on any second account lol
You know what ..
Nevermind lol

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MildlyClever#2548 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Apparently not too lazy to argue with people without even having a point.
Go beg mum for money.

And you have lost what few marbles you had or brought in the first place.

I think a 500 word essay won't even begin to cover the things you don't know, don't want to know, or incapable of knowing - about ARPGs, POE, (supporter icons), meaningful anything.

Please play more PoE2 instead of proving with every post how insufferable ab ignoramus can be - do us all a favor. After all, your obsession to it is cute in a puppy-love sort of way, so immerse yourself in it.

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Ironhide75#7617 wrote:

I wouldnt have paid to support a game that wasn't one I was going to play and enjoy. The currency isnt an issue, if I want currency, I buy currency, I was paying for the extra key (I already qualified lifetime purchases) for my son and to generally support the development of the new game because if you don't support the games you like / want, they wont be there when you want them. To that last point, thats because this is named, and has been marketed as POE2. Not Path of Souls or some other game, its named POE2, naturally that indicates is a successor and I probably want to play it because I like the original.

Had it been obvious that we called it POE2, but its a new take on the same genrea, but its essentially Ruthless mode as a new game, I would have known, not for me, good luck with that but not something I care about.

I'm also yet to see definite commitment from GGG on maintaining and improving POE1.

So as it stands right now, they are reaping in the rewards, while being closed lipped about their plans for POE1, because they know if they say "Yeah, this is the game, and POE1 will be sunsetted" then they will lose a lot of people. At the same time, not being up front it feels like a bait and switch. I'm not interested in this kind of game, so just tell me POE1 will continue to get the top tier support, all the cool features and equal billing to this game, and I'm gone, back to POE1, waiting for the next league.

I've played Ruthless, and for the times when that kind of game play is what I want, I don't mind it. I also don't mind what they are doing here, unless this is all there will be.

I want a fully supported, improved, cool version of these games that works for casuals, works for mediums and works for the elites.

In fact, I want an even more casual mode (and this is likely to be wildly unpopular) but I would love an opposite to Ruthless mode. Essentially, a sandbox mode. Lots of currency dropping. Don't keep the chars, make it ONLY SSF, disable achievs, no grouping, hell disable chat entirely. There are times when I want to experience what that person streaming is experiencing with their crafting and blasting etc, but I do not have the time to farm, or the followers to farm for me.

Essentially, give people more choice to play their way. It's 2024, it is possible to build and run a game that lets people choose their level of fun, experience and difficulty, and to do it in a way where how I play has eff all to do with how anyone else does.

We have a lot of people who are more interested in making sure others suffer than sharing and making sure everyone gets what they want. This should not be about Only Ruthless or Only Carebear, we can have both.

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MildlyClever#2548 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Apparently not too lazy to argue with people without even having a point.
Go beg mum for money.

And you have lost what few marbles you had or brought in the first place.

I think a 500 word essay won't even begin to cover the things you don't know, don't want to know, or incapable of knowing - about ARPGs, POE, (supporter icons), meaningful anything.

Please play more PoE2 instead of proving with every post how insufferable ab ignoramus can be - do us all a favor. After all, your obsession to it is cute in a puppy-love sort of way, so immerse yourself in it.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Ironhide75#7617 wrote:

I wouldnt have paid to support a game that wasn't one I was going to play and enjoy. The currency isnt an issue, if I want currency, I buy currency, I was paying for the extra key (I already qualified lifetime purchases) for my son and to generally support the development of the new game because if you don't support the games you like / want, they wont be there when you want them. To that last point, thats because this is named, and has been marketed as POE2. Not Path of Souls or some other game, its named POE2, naturally that indicates is a successor and I probably want to play it because I like the original.

Had it been obvious that we called it POE2, but its a new take on the same genrea, but its essentially Ruthless mode as a new game, I would have known, not for me, good luck with that but not something I care about.

I'm also yet to see definite commitment from GGG on maintaining and improving POE1.

So as it stands right now, they are reaping in the rewards, while being closed lipped about their plans for POE1, because they know if they say "Yeah, this is the game, and POE1 will be sunsetted" then they will lose a lot of people. At the same time, not being up front it feels like a bait and switch. I'm not interested in this kind of game, so just tell me POE1 will continue to get the top tier support, all the cool features and equal billing to this game, and I'm gone, back to POE1, waiting for the next league.

I've played Ruthless, and for the times when that kind of game play is what I want, I don't mind it. I also don't mind what they are doing here, unless this is all there will be.

I want a fully supported, improved, cool version of these games that works for casuals, works for mediums and works for the elites.

In fact, I want an even more casual mode (and this is likely to be wildly unpopular) but I would love an opposite to Ruthless mode. Essentially, a sandbox mode. Lots of currency dropping. Don't keep the chars, make it ONLY SSF, disable achievs, no grouping, hell disable chat entirely. There are times when I want to experience what that person streaming is experiencing with their crafting and blasting etc, but I do not have the time to farm, or the followers to farm for me.

Essentially, give people more choice to play their way. It's 2024, it is possible to build and run a game that lets people choose their level of fun, experience and difficulty, and to do it in a way where how I play has eff all to do with how anyone else does.

We have a lot of people who are more interested in making sure others suffer than sharing and making sure everyone gets what they want. This should not be about Only Ruthless or Only Carebear, we can have both.

You know what, I can sympathise with your first point.
As a Baldur's Gate 1+2 fan, I've been in a similar boat not long ago, when BG3 was released, and it was too big of a departure from the originals for me.
So yes, I understand where that frustration is coming from.

I have only played witch so far, so I can only comment on that.
The built I homebrewed when I went in blind turned out to 1-click-melt through everything I'm encountering without any issues whatsoever.
It is as brainless afk faceroll as it gets, probably.

Do other classes struggle much more? Do others have a much harder time coming up with functional builds, because the community is so used to just copying streamer builds for a decade without understanding the game?
I can not tell.

I agree though that build variety is important.
From what I've heard at least, it seems to be pretty well implemented.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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MildlyClever#2548 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Apparently not too lazy to argue with people without even having a point.
Go beg mum for money.

And you have lost what few marbles you had or brought in the first place.

I think a 500 word essay won't even begin to cover the things you don't know, don't want to know, or incapable of knowing - about ARPGs, POE, (supporter icons), meaningful anything.

Please play more PoE2 instead of proving with every post how insufferable ab ignoramus can be - do us all a favor. After all, your obsession to it is cute in a puppy-love sort of way, so immerse yourself in it.

And all of the things you said about my lack of knowledge of the franchise and genre, while still having an easy time with the game, comes to support my point:
the game is not difficult.
Which is the main point of this post.

You... are able to make that connection, right?
I apologise if I'm overestimating you.

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WiryRed Dragon#8792 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Ironhide75#7617 wrote:

I wouldnt have paid to support a game that wasn't one I was going to play and enjoy. The currency isnt an issue, if I want currency, I buy currency, I was paying for the extra key (I already qualified lifetime purchases) for my son and to generally support the development of the new game because if you don't support the games you like / want, they wont be there when you want them. To that last point, thats because this is named, and has been marketed as POE2. Not Path of Souls or some other game, its named POE2, naturally that indicates is a successor and I probably want to play it because I like the original.

Had it been obvious that we called it POE2, but its a new take on the same genrea, but its essentially Ruthless mode as a new game, I would have known, not for me, good luck with that but not something I care about.

I'm also yet to see definite commitment from GGG on maintaining and improving POE1.

So as it stands right now, they are reaping in the rewards, while being closed lipped about their plans for POE1, because they know if they say "Yeah, this is the game, and POE1 will be sunsetted" then they will lose a lot of people. At the same time, not being up front it feels like a bait and switch. I'm not interested in this kind of game, so just tell me POE1 will continue to get the top tier support, all the cool features and equal billing to this game, and I'm gone, back to POE1, waiting for the next league.

I've played Ruthless, and for the times when that kind of game play is what I want, I don't mind it. I also don't mind what they are doing here, unless this is all there will be.

I want a fully supported, improved, cool version of these games that works for casuals, works for mediums and works for the elites.

In fact, I want an even more casual mode (and this is likely to be wildly unpopular) but I would love an opposite to Ruthless mode. Essentially, a sandbox mode. Lots of currency dropping. Don't keep the chars, make it ONLY SSF, disable achievs, no grouping, hell disable chat entirely. There are times when I want to experience what that person streaming is experiencing with their crafting and blasting etc, but I do not have the time to farm, or the followers to farm for me.

Essentially, give people more choice to play their way. It's 2024, it is possible to build and run a game that lets people choose their level of fun, experience and difficulty, and to do it in a way where how I play has eff all to do with how anyone else does.

We have a lot of people who are more interested in making sure others suffer than sharing and making sure everyone gets what they want. This should not be about Only Ruthless or Only Carebear, we can have both.

You know what, I can sympathise with your first point.
As a Baldur's Gate 1+2 fan, I've been in a similar boat not long ago, when BG3 was released, and it was too big of a departure from the originals for me.
So yes, I understand where that frustration is coming from.

I have only played witch so far, so I can only comment on that.
The built I homebrewed when I went in blind turned out to 1-click-melt through everything I'm encountering without any issues whatsoever.
It is as brainless afk faceroll as it gets, probably.

Do other classes struggle much more? Do others have a much harder time coming up with functional builds, because the community is so used to just copying streamer builds for a decade without understanding the game?
I can not tell.

I agree though that build variety is important.
From what I've heard at least, it seems to be pretty well implemented.

Mathil 2.0 here boys watch out :-)

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

You know what, I can sympathise with your first point.
As a Baldur's Gate 1+2 fan, I've been in a similar boat not long ago, when BG3 was released, and it was too big of a departure from the originals for me.
So yes, I understand where that frustration is coming from.

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Ironhide75#7617 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

You know what, I can sympathise with your first point.
As a Baldur's Gate 1+2 fan, I've been in a similar boat not long ago, when BG3 was released, and it was too big of a departure from the originals for me.
So yes, I understand where that frustration is coming from.

Huge fan of BG1/2 also and not that into BG3. I got a job at Bioware because I loved BG1/2 so much. (Job was on SWTOR though).

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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MildlyClever#2548 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Apparently not too lazy to argue with people without even having a point.
Go beg mum for money.

And you have lost what few marbles you had or brought in the first place.

I think a 500 word essay won't even begin to cover the things you don't know, don't want to know, or incapable of knowing - about ARPGs, POE, (supporter icons), meaningful anything.

Please play more PoE2 instead of proving with every post how insufferable ab ignoramus can be - do us all a favor. After all, your obsession to it is cute in a puppy-love sort of way, so immerse yourself in it.

And all of the things you said about my lack of knowledge of the franchise and genre, while still having an easy time with the game, comes to support my point:
the game is not difficult.
Which is the main point of this post.

You... are able to make that connection, right?
I apologise if I'm overestimating you.