To everyone who ever argued "melee is fine"

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Mana cost is 100% what i most think they've made a mistake on, I will however just lifetap it so fundamentally I see it as a slight damage nerf to offset the other buffs rather than a dealbreaker.

You don't have to lifetap it if you don't want to, I almost always take the life mastery to pay some of the cost with life anyway

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mnieradko wrote:

Defensively, left/bottom side melee will still be very far from "fine" in 3.2.5, unless you plan to stack 10+ endurance charges on every melee build, since they still didn't give you reliable non-gear spell suppression. A lot of "I'm going melee in mapping and bossing bro" people will quickly get a rude awakening that little has changed and will go back to their ranged/caster/totem builds.

As for the mana cost reduction nodes in the melee passive areas, this is a great example of "creating Y to fix X instead of removing X in the first place", in which X is the continued mana cost issues of melee skills. It makes sense given the forum's attitude to "fixing" the game, like people saying "give us more options for spell suppression". No, the correct solution is to remove spell suppression and adjust the remaining defensive layers.

BTW, they also nerfed jugg, the one left/bottom side ascendancy that people consistently said "I gotta go jugg so I don't die instantly bro." Well, where did GGG compensate for this nerf with ascendancy defensive buffs to jugg or others? I don't see any.

Does the concept of a straight giant defensive buff just seem too abstract of an idea for GGG? Do they like wasting time undoing one change by implementing another? Patches like this give the impression that POE1 is meant to die soon to make way for POE2 engagement.

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Baharoth15 wrote:

You are applying two different metrics there. In other games melee is fine if it can do all content (which it can in POE as well) but in POE it sucks because it's worse than ranged (which is the case with it in all those games you mentioned as well). You'll have to pick one and stick with it otherwise you aren't making any sense.

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sidtherat wrote:

hey, you can survive on minimum wage! minimum wage is fine!
(i always wonder why people who claim melee is fine never actually play it)



and while GGG thrown heaps of increased % they, quietly as ever, took with the other hand

this time: attack speed. typical melee build lost A LOT of attack speed. i doubt these % increases are enough to turn this entire change into more than 20% net buff. and im generous now.
loss of rage and berserk + protector is HUGE. that was a lot of attack speed, A LOT of it.