To everyone who ever argued "melee is fine"
" You don't have to lifetap it if you don't want to, I almost always take the life mastery to pay some of the cost with life anyway |
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That mastery is gone, its on attack master and its own wheels. You lose more skill points to get it. depending on your tree.
Without triple elreon you probably have to take cannabalistic rite or get an extra attack wheel if strikes cause of additional strike needs too, or you have to grab some other attack wheel if youre slams. Or you will need to take savage intensity and its conditional You lose something like 8-12 base tree skill points to get to roughly the same damage and less movement speed. If were talking about berserker. There are probably ways to adjust it that i havent figured out yet to make it more damage. but ive had like 1 hour with new pob. Honestly the mana costs may be the biggest issue to deal with. Last edited by Lonnie455Rich#2087 on Jul 19, 2024, 12:27:08 PM
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the mana mastery (pay some cost in life) has been - you guessed it! - NERFED this patch. so instead of getting 30% via life mastery (and you get more than 1 life cluster - so it costs ONE passive) you get 15% via life mastery and 20% via attack mastery.
it is a passive tax, straight nerf via both direct and opportunity cost (attack clusters in general suck. you take the smallest one for +1 strikes/no block and run. right now strike builds will need to take TWO such clusters. clusters that are more or less garbage) i think you seriously underestimate just how bad this change is. my last char was 1h mace Earhshatter of whatever - 4mana9life cost. after changes it will go straight up to 40mana6life. it doesnt look like melee buff for me. getting rid of mana cost for attack skills would actually make A LOT more sense than this https://poeplanner.com - 3.25 tree, go check it, pretty much everywhere you look - there are some minor nerfs. i cannot find a single clear buff around there. +2 max res - cool, expensive, better spend the same points on suppression |
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" honestly i think most of the berserker changes were caused by str stacking being op. They already dumpstered the battlemages cry nonsense. They had to make sure it got nerfed enough. Kind of like the lightning strike nerf, they took it from a lot of different angles and at the same time made it take 1 more skill point to get fortify. I do think there is a good solution, i just havent come across it. mana reservation on warcries is hilarious. |
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but.. Crown of Eyes had no change, right? so all what is lost is the warcry buff effect multiplier. significant but the whole mechanic works the same, with lower multiplier but much higher base
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well you lose the helmet mod that gives you all your accuracy and the -res + crit.
Crown of eyes was only good with slam str stacking totems imo, when you had to use a +1 totem shield (at least thats the only time i utilized it for str stacking) Also outside of echoes of creation i hate using a unique helmet. the phys taken as feels mandatory there in hc. Last edited by Lonnie455Rich#2087 on Jul 19, 2024, 2:30:23 PM
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phys-as-ele mod wont be available, so the choice is even easier to make
i know it will be worse, but ive seen people claiming that it is dead or whatnot. it isnt. it got a slap, lost some damage and is less comfortable to play. but getting accuracy (not as a stat, but to hit something) is actually easy. blind is a great help, 'close range' accuracy mastery pretty much solves it all. what is dead is counter-attack build, this is truly dead. retaliation concept is DOA (i wonder who have played this and found it fun?) but STR stacking is fine and kicking albeit it lost some punch. still better than all-mirror phys equivalent for 1/50th of a cost |
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i'll say this though, despite melee being "bad" i usualy play melee most leagues, so if there is a buff or shift into making it better i should enjoy it more than usual this league.
Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi
He who controls the pants controls the galaxy. - Rick & Morty S3E1 |
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" Ya im sure. im still giving it a shot, until i get 3-4 days after league start its really hard for me to say whether or not this is going to be ok. I can't seem to sort out a solid well rounded and efficient slam or dual wielding zerker tree atm. They both have holes. |
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" lol nicely said, might have to make this a sig quote Maybe its nostalgia but I think in many ways the health of build diversity in POE was better back when you could just take a fun skill and get it to Shaper/Elder. Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years. |
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