Experience loss driving some players away?

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FadeXF wrote:

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e7ang wrote:

Why does a game have to only cater to a certain group of gamers? POE can VERY easily cater to everyone. They created all types of customs leagues for the races. Why not a league for people who simply want to face roll content. I don't see the harm. It's not like hardcore or default leagues would be affected at all.

Forza is a perfect example of a game that caters to all types of gamers. From my 5 year old nieces to my hardcore car enthusiast dad.

Catering to only a select group of gamers is not only bad business, but bad game design.

I'm convinced that people actually believe that somehow it waters down "their" side of the game - be it hardcore or whatever - even though the heart of this game is a "LEAGUE" system which could facilitate ANYBODIES play style... pick a league that suites you and play it up!

I dunno - people become morally offended if you dislike only a certain few aspects of the game like:

1) Experience loss on death
2) Extreme RNG issues on socketing, coloring, even crafting - everything is rng rng rng rng rng - with slim to no chances of ever getting what you actually want
3) Terrible drop rates

I guess that hurts people's feelings to think that there could be a league that has no death loss penalties - a better base chance of getting 4->6Ls, color combinations on items, and also that has a better drop rate on orbs. Somehow that impacts their very existence on this planet or something. ><


EDIT: and to the OP - it absolutely is driving players away. I can't be bothered - I tried... I was going to make a dual totem CI witch, and made it to about level 18 and I was like: well what if THIS character (like the 5-8th level 70+ I've made) doesn't function well for me late 70s - into level 80s? Late game has absolutely nothing to do with leveling specs period. You can't "practice" with specs - and so you have to gear out properly, and level, and spent a LOAD of time only to find out it just doesn't work for you... something is off... soak up a few deaths at level 75+ and notice that you can't progress 5-10 maps for 1 death negates all that time. So what's the point, really? Not worth it. Will hold off until some of these items are fixed up... I hate "working" in games like in POE it's pretty evident you need a 2nd life to play it successfully.

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At L75 there's no reason to play when the level, XP and death penalty forced you to roll alts. There needs to be a balance, but when a company removes access to endgame for 70% of it's player base then good luck. Soft core should be enjoyable and balanced for casual players

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build a character that wont die

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TheSwampDog wrote:

A death penalty makes the game NO harder. It is applied after the death as a 'fuck you'.

This game is already chock full of intense grinding. To have a penalty that says "Hah hah, no you have to grind even more" is just dumb, IMO.

Also, how can one possibly 'lose' experience?