Unironically the worst patch notes I have ever read, still no significant balance changes.

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Senju_Hyoketsu wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I never suggested making skills OP, only viable.

But here's the problem: GGG would first need to stop buffing shit to be OP in the first place to later push the "shift the meta" nonsense that requires they be nerfed into worthlessness.

And make no mistake: If and when GGG finally nerfs these skills, they will be completely trash to make way for the next OP lineup.


It's almost impossible to make TS/LA trash by nerfing them.

People will whine and cry that the skill is dead at first, like they usually do; when in reality I'll be completely fine, and simply require more investment in order to attain the same level of power it used to.


Then I refer back to what I had said earlier. You shouldn't have to bust your ass grinding all league to work up the currency to make a capable build. This is why people constantly run to whatever is the most cost-effective build, turning them meta.

This is why TS, LS, deadeye and pathfinder are so popular: They offer strong options without costing mirrors like every other build has to do in order to reach the same level of power. If the other skills weren't so terrible that you need significant investment to make them feel good, maybe there wouldn't be so many people running to the ones you want to nerf?
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

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Pizzarugi wrote:


This is why TS, LS, deadeye and pathfinder are so popular: They offer strong options without costing mirrors like every other build has to do in order to reach the same level of power. If the other skills weren't so terrible that you need significant investment to make them feel good, maybe there wouldn't be so many people running to the ones you want to nerf?


I dont know about mirrors a build has never cost me that and I've farmed ubers but

It will take about 2-3 SRS builds worth of currency to even get JUST the bow online for a successful Tshot build. You grossly overestimate its damage prior to having any gear, its not like other builds that only require +gem levels or DOT scaling through cheap bow crafts (you can make a bis +3 bow for TR still to this day for less than 20 div)

Meanwhile for a tshot bow??? I have to hit %phys, +phys, attack speed, + arrows

and then you have to do that all over again with your quiver (global crit multi/ additional arrow/ attack speed/ + life/ etc....

The bow and quiver for any decent Tshot build will be such a barrier to entry for the skill. Why do you think the build doesn't even show up on league start? Because it requires insane crafts AND drops.

And this is all under the veil of you running Deadeye, (see the forum complaints about getting one shot from nowhere all over the forums), a notoriously squishy ascendancy.

Tshot is only close to being a BIT more approachable this league because of tattoos and easier access to +arrows. Look at every other league as well with Tshot it takes weeks for that thing to finally show up on the leaderboards it takes insane crafts and drops to even come online.

If it did not, you would see this skill as a league starter.
Mash the clean
Nah bro just nerf uniques again 4th league in a row, its all good
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Senju_Hyoketsu wrote:


You are forcing me to phrase it this way : make f****** significant balance changes.


Why people who doesn't support game by buying the supporter packs are first to force changes?
I guess devs think nerving certain gems that are not played a lot and buffing meta gems to keep majority happy and bring out a bunch of shit gems as alternatives well shake up the meta. All skills that I like have been nerved to shit. Unless there are hidden boosts/replacements to items which is none existent or not affordable this whole league is there to get is closer to path of exile 2 and slow the shit down. Next league all that are not playing bows will scream nerf the bow skills. That's what GGG wants. To just gut every playable skill and get away with it without any complaints from the community.
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Shadeless01 wrote:
I guess devs think nerving certain gems that are not played a lot and buffing meta gems to keep majority happy and bring out a bunch of shit gems as alternatives well shake up the meta. All skills that I like have been nerved to shit. Unless there are hidden boosts/replacements to items which is none existent or not affordable this whole league is there to get is closer to path of exile 2 and slow the shit down. Next league all that are not playing bows will scream nerf the bow skills. That's what GGG wants. To just gut every playable skill and get away with it without any complaints from the community.


Are you typing this from a parallel universe or did you just miss all the threads complaining about the RF nerf? Or the fact they are giving Vortex a cast time and nerfing hit damage (rip Vortex Ignite)

Some people in this community have me so jaded it's not even funny anymore
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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Shadeless01 wrote:
I guess devs think nerving certain gems that are not played a lot and buffing meta gems to keep majority happy and bring out a bunch of shit gems as alternatives well shake up the meta. All skills that I like have been nerved to shit. Unless there are hidden boosts/replacements to items which is none existent or not affordable this whole league is there to get is closer to path of exile 2 and slow the shit down. Next league all that are not playing bows will scream nerf the bow skills. That's what GGG wants. To just gut every playable skill and get away with it without any complaints from the community.


Are you typing this from a parallel universe or did you just miss all the threads complaining about the RF nerf? Or the fact they are giving Vortex a cast time and nerfing hit damage (rip Vortex Ignite)

Some people in this community have me so jaded it's not even funny anymore


while i hoped for a transformed vortex gem without cast time,the new vortex has no cd
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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Shadeless01 wrote:
I guess devs think nerving certain gems that are not played a lot and buffing meta gems to keep majority happy and bring out a bunch of shit gems as alternatives well shake up the meta. All skills that I like have been nerved to shit. Unless there are hidden boosts/replacements to items which is none existent or not affordable this whole league is there to get is closer to path of exile 2 and slow the shit down. Next league all that are not playing bows will scream nerf the bow skills. That's what GGG wants. To just gut every playable skill and get away with it without any complaints from the community.


Are you typing this from a parallel universe or did you just miss all the threads complaining about the RF nerf? Or the fact they are giving Vortex a cast time and nerfing hit damage (rip Vortex Ignite)

Some people in this community have me so jaded it's not even funny anymore


RF is debated how much of a nerf it is, so no idea if it is that bad and unplayable. So won't say it will shake up the meta.

And vortex is not played that much? That's exactly my point, why the fuck nerf skills that are not played that much.

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Shadeless01 wrote:
RF is debated how much of a nerf it is, so no idea if it is that bad and unplayable. So won't say it will shake up the meta.

And vortex is not played that much? That's exactly my point, why the fuck nerf skills that are not played that much.


What are you saying there? Vortex was the #13 played skill 1 week into Ancestor

You are the one making wild claims about "what GGG wants" without any proof. Chill out dude lmao.
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