It's time for GGG to take back reigns of trade for the sake of the game

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Z3RoNightMare wrote:

Omegalul. What's most strange is that they post the items in those sites, which GGG could 100% look at, pin point the account, ban the fuck out of it, and yet they don't...? I don't ussualy back up conspiracies, but this shade has a shady shade.

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I mean, seriously, that's 2 minutes of searching those sites and you tell me you can't pin point those accounts and ban them? US Hardcore Season One Invitational Invitee, no less.

Why would they ban someone for selling those items for mirrors?

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RandallPOE wrote:

Why would they ban someone for selling those items for mirrors?

I guess they wouldn't, hence the issue no?

I mean RMT no matter where it takes place in the process is still RMT regardless of how it gets "laundered" for lack of a better term.

If its obvious to anyone that looks, it must be even more clear to GGG. (One would think) That doesn't solve the issue of what to do about repeated offenders and new accounts, but some of the examples out there are ridiculously brazen. To the point people start wondering what the GGG role actually is here.

Surely most people could agree there should be some middle ground between tossing your hands up and letting RMT run rampant, and a dedicated GGG team banning everyone in the vicinity of RMT as a job.

Right now it's just a bad look, likely embarrassing for GGG, and they are totally silent on this despite their previous stances and existing ToS. If they want conspiracy theories, conjecture, and generally negative sentiment around Trade, TFT, and RMT, they're doing a good job themselves providing that.

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RandallPOE wrote:

Why would they ban someone for selling those items for mirrors?

For mirrors? None. But why sell it in a place dedicated to RMT? It's like instead of buying aspirin from a local drug store, you go to a drug dealer. Plus, he has gold, which either means he's supporting the RMT site or alredy sold something there.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/119jv51/irrefutable_proof_of_tft_rmt/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/119jv51/comment/j9mju64/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

It is time GGG does a deep investigation into EVERY senior member on TFT. If nothing comes of this, all it tells everyone is that sites like G Too G are ok to go to.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Surely most people could agree there should be some middle ground between tossing your hands up and letting RMT run rampant, and a dedicated GGG team banning everyone in the vicinity of RMT as a job.

They do exist in that middle ground. Are you saying they don't ban anyone for RMT?

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Nubatron wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Surely most people could agree there should be some middle ground between tossing your hands up and letting RMT run rampant, and a dedicated GGG team banning everyone in the vicinity of RMT as a job.

They do exist in that middle ground. Are you saying they don't ban anyone for RMT?

Clearly not even remotely close to enough to qualify as middle ground.


Edit: Unless you are suggesting the status
quo is fine? Then I guess we just disagree. I think they can do much better if they wished. Just my opinion given the circumstances.

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Z3RoNightMare wrote:

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RandallPOE wrote:

Why would they ban someone for selling those items for mirrors?

For mirrors? None. But why sell it in a place dedicated to RMT? It's like instead of buying aspirin from a local drug store, you go to a drug dealer. Plus, he has gold, which either means he's supporting the RMT site or alredy sold something there.

Maybe things have changed but official policy back in the day used to be that it was fine to use that site for finding groups and similar and it was fine to use it for trading as long as it was in game currency and not for fg.

Sure, ban people if you can prove they bought/sold POE items for fg but it would be pretty fucking unjust to ban someone simply for using the site whilst doing nothing wrong in POE. There are literally hundreds of games aside from POE you can use that site for trading in.

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RandallPOE wrote:

Maybe things have changed but official policy back in the day used to be that it was fine to use that site for finding groups and similar and it was fine to use it for trading as long as it was in game currency and not for fg.

Sure, ban people if you can prove they bought/sold POE items for fg but it would be pretty fucking unjust to ban someone simply for using the site whilst doing nothing wrong in POE. There are literally hundreds of games aside from POE you can use that site for trading in.

And i'm pretty sure most of those games also have clauses that forbid RMT. More over, official trade site didn't exist back in the day, poe.trade literally forced them to make one.

There's zero reason to use shady sites when official trade is available, unless you want to do shady shit.

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Z3RoNightMare wrote:

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RandallPOE wrote:

Maybe things have changed but official policy back in the day used to be that it was fine to use that site for finding groups and similar and it was fine to use it for trading as long as it was in game currency and not for fg.

Sure, ban people if you can prove they bought/sold POE items for fg but it would be pretty fucking unjust to ban someone simply for using the site whilst doing nothing wrong in POE. There are literally hundreds of games aside from POE you can use that site for trading in.

And i'm pretty sure most of those games also have clauses that forbid RMT. More over, official trade site didn't exist back in the day, poe.trade literally forced them to make one.

There's zero reason to use shady sites when official trade is available, unless you want to do shady shit.

So you're saying that people should be banned from POE on the off chance that they did RMT in some other game? That's ridiculous

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RandallPOE wrote:

So you're saying that people should be banned from POE on the off chance that they did RMT in some other game? That's ridiculous

God, you people make it your job to twist words and assume things.

If he wants to sell PoE items for ingame currency in shady sites, there's zero reason to do so, official trade exists.

If he has gold in a RMT site it means he supports RMT sites. Doesn't mean he did anything bad in THIS game and wouldn't otherwise require a ban in THIS game. It still doesn't excuse the fact he's willingly attempting to sell in a RMT site, when there's an official, readily available option that doesn't support RMT.

Clear enough?

P.S.: If anyone actually bothered to read the Terms of Service provided when you agree to them, All games ToS pretty much state you don't "own" the virtual content, you merely have a "license" of use, except Counter Strike, i guess?