Why is MF and the supposed "loot goblin": a problem? Expalin it to me like I'm an idiot

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Crimvaal wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I will give 1 cookie if you do "xyz". However if you were wearing a red shirt while you did "xyz", I would give you five.

Which you would respond, "I didnt know if I wore a red shirt I'd get five. Here I am wearing a green shirt because I like the color, and now I'm hungry and sad all the red shirt wearers have more cookies."

What a terrible analogy. In your example there is no inherent drawback from wearing a red shirt. Unlike PoE where you actively sacrifice character power for the possibility to get more or better loot.

People discussing this topic like to pretend wearing magic find gear is free and quickly forget about the negatives. Outside of optimized group play it is a fine balancing act between magic find and character power. A bit too much and you suddenly lack offensive and defensive options you can only make up with either an HH, MB or by dialing back your difficulty. It is an act of opportunity, always has been.

To answer the topic the supposed problem is fear of missing out. People see these highlights of dedicated groups or lucky people dropping 20 to 50+ divines, ignoring the fact that these are in fact a rare occurrence where the stars have to align for it to happen. They then proceed playing their alc and go maps, obviously not getting the above loot explosions from their god-touched rares and claim disadvantage.

This wasn't a problem in the past where said optimized groups were printing div cards and T1 uniques but now it suddenly is because the common perception changed.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

My dude it wasnt perception. There were not 80 exalts mob pops before 3.19, nor was anyone buying cullers on 3rd party sites to maximize looting.

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feike wrote:

Yeah, MF is supposed to be a compromise with more loot in exchange for less character power, but the issue is that party play allows you to render that drawback moot: The monster scaling is nowhere near enough to adjust for an extra player and the bigger the party, the more out of line the balance between players and monsters become, to the point a large party can have a "dead weight" character that just wear gravebind and stack MF to dumb levels and the drawback is negated by the party/monster balance disparity

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Crimvaal wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

My dude it wasnt perception. There were not 80 exalts mob pops before 3.19, nor was anyone buying cullers on 3rd party sites to maximize looting.

Yeah not shit. Pre 3.19 you would have gotten an HH in that map instead. Bohoo :(

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Crimvaal wrote:

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feike wrote:

Yeah, MF is supposed to be a compromise with more loot in exchange for less character power, but the issue is that party play allows you to render that drawback moot: The monster scaling is nowhere near enough to adjust for an extra player and the bigger the party, the more out of line the balance between players and monsters become, to the point a large party can have a "dead weight" character that just wear gravebind and stack MF to dumb levels and the drawback is negated by the party/monster balance disparity

That was always the case and isn't something that suddenly appeared in 3.19. Talk about missing the point.

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feike wrote:

Ikr, quote just the part of the post that talk about other things and ignore the whole rest of the post that adressed that and talk about missing the point, awesome tunnel vision, man, youre a great example of a internet forum warrior

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lupasvasile wrote:

Seriously, how is one's own choice to give in to FOMO (fear of missing out) the fault of the devs? This applies to any game not only PoE. I look forward to the answers of people far more intelligent than I.