Four reason i think Diablo IV migh have the edge against poe(2)

Only thing i like in D4 is open world

They should give to us in poe so much beter than innstance everything

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pr13st wrote:

Imagine being hyped about something blizzard churns out

Same thing could be said about GGG... To me it seems PoE has gone downhill each patch / league for a long time but still some people believe in this "Chris vision" and will never admit that path of exile is not even close to as popular it was when there weren't bunch of bloated content and annoying mechanics to interact with just so you can maximize your loot potential even if you hate the mechanic it self.

Diablo 4 seems dated visually, looks mediocre at best, and in terms of skill effects to me it seems below current PoE, so the point about visuals is subjective. A game being "new" is also completely irrelevant, I mean Diablo Immortal is also a "new" game, but in reality, beneath a gambling-like money scam, it's a watered down Diablo 3, a 10 years old game, with a pointless open world slapped on top only to promote unhealthy spending even more by rubbing it in people's faces when somebody bought better gear. I mean, that's the whole point why most mobile games have 'social' aspects or "open" world, it's to make spenders stand out and feel better about themselves, while promoting non-spenders or small spenders to spend more.

And regarding story, they barely covered it, so I have no idea what to be excited about. D2 story was nothing special, it just had a nice grim feel to it and it was complemented by great visual and audio design of locations. D3 story was abysmal, and Blizzard's recent foray in storytelling in PvE games (like WoW) has also been downright awful. Not sure why people expect anything here.

D4 just seems to be a medicore ARPG, which would be impressive 4-5 years ago, but nothing special by today's standards. They want it to be GAS, but blizzard showed absolutely no ability of quickly releasing content for ANY of their franchises, including their biggest GAS, WoW. And if they dont make a sudden and big turnaround for D4, PoE will be running laps around Diablo in terms of content releases.

Oh, and if this full price title wont have P2W of some sorts (buying gold, re-selling store cosmetics for gold, boosters, etc.) I would be massively surprised.

its funny that people dont realize diablo 4 will be as much p2w as diablo immortal have fun spending 50k to get an item and have fun doing the same boss 99999 times becuz diablo 4 on release wont have any endgame content

I agree with OP's reasons. I also expect the D4 social/MP experience to be better. Much like comparing D3 vs PoE1 in the first half of the 2010s, Diablo is likely to be a better game on the surface -- but lacking in true endgame content and depth, which is where PoE will continue to reign supreme. Although certainly D4 will be better supported than D3.

All in all, good for games and the consumer, so I'm really happy. :}

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Gopstop22 wrote:

its funny that people dont realize diablo 4 will be as much p2w as diablo immortal

You don't know that for a fact so don't state it as such. If anything, if DI is successful as a pay-to-win monster then that means Diablo 4 doesn't need to dirty its hands in a similar manner. Pay attention to how they're marketing D4 and to whom and you'll see it's absolutely in their best interests to make it seem as unlike DI as possible, and that's exactly what they're doing.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

its funny that people dont realize diablo 4 will be as much p2w as diablo immortal

You don't know that for a fact so don't state it as such. If anything, if DI is successful as a pay-to-win monster then that means Diablo 4 doesn't need to dirty its hands in a similar manner. Pay attention to how they're marketing D4 and to whom and you'll see it's absolutely in their best interests to make it seem as unlike DI as possible, and that's exactly what they're doing.

Well... I would say DI is a testing ground on how far they can go on PC.

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Gopstop22 wrote:

its funny that people dont realize diablo 4 will be as much p2w as diablo immortal have fun spending 50k to get an item and have fun doing the same boss 99999 times becuz diablo 4 on release wont have any endgame content

Where did you hear that? Only official thing i have heard about the monetization after the game release is that they are going to sell cosmetic micro transactions ( just like in poe ) and later full expansion(s)

I have seen some speculation YouTube videos that are worried some p2w might happen but again nothing official.

So do you have some official source where you heard that D4 will me "as much p2w as diablo immortal" ?

Imagine a world where things don't have to try to kill each other.

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Zerber wrote:

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

its funny that people dont realize diablo 4 will be as much p2w as diablo immortal

You don't know that for a fact so don't state it as such. If anything, if DI is successful as a pay-to-win monster then that means Diablo 4 doesn't need to dirty its hands in a similar manner. Pay attention to how they're marketing D4 and to whom and you'll see it's absolutely in their best interests to make it seem as unlike DI as possible, and that's exactly what they're doing.

Well... I would say DI is a testing ground on how far they can go on PC.

But DI is a free mobile game with a PC port, people won't put up with that shit in a buy to play PC/console only game. Pretty sure they will go the same route as WoW with buyable pets, mounts etc. but no P2W shenanigans.