The death of PoE is near. Diablo 4 is coming in 2023, before PoE 2!

YEah it was huge sucess to have 12 milion ACTIVE PLAYERS. It was a jab to his posts how Diablo Immortal just appeared and already have "100 times more players than PoE" (when in reality it has 10 milion downloads, which means nothing)

OP has really high hopes from a company that proved nothing since I can barely remember.

The only thing D4 will change will be some player drops in POE.

Heck I will play it for a while to see if they shitted on another 10 years of development or if they finally made a game worth of their long forgotten reputation of gaming pioneers .

Who knows, maybe I can finally stop grinding exalts for no reason.

as much as i hate blizz for the pos named diablo immortal, i really hope d4 is good.

How many People Download a Game and Play it in the First months after Release says nothing about the quality of a Game.

It just says it is a big title and people want to try it.

Look at New World for example. Huge Player Numbers at Release. Now its almost Dead because it didnt deliver quality.
Its always the same. It takes some time for the majority to realise a game is Bad.

Same will go for Diablo Immoral. In a few Months only the Whales will be left because they are in too deep. Take a few Months more and even the majority of them will move on because all the money they spend gets devalued when no one else plays the game.

I dont know how it will be with D4. No one really knows before it is Released but Diablo Immortal diminished my expectation for D4 for sure. They slapped their Name on this dog Game after all.

In the long run the better Game will have more Players and right now in my mind there is no question about it. PoE2 will beat D4 by miles because GGG has passion and puts work in their Game to improve it while Blizzard just milks their Playerbase for as much money they can with the least amount of effort put into their Games.

while Blizzard just milks their Playerbase for as much money they can with the least amount of effort put into their Games.


and u dont think that what PoE is about?

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jpkiwi wrote:

and u dont think that what PoE is about?

Very different stage in the cycle, Blizzard exist entirely off brand value built over the last decade, PoE has like no brand value in comparison so can only milk from their current product.

If PoE2 comes out and is amazing they will be able to ride it for a decade of milk like Blizzard has done but its doubtful, not as easy to build that legacy to leverage now before you even get started on the quality.

I hope Blizzard/Activision will be more srs about the Companys Reputation after
the Microsoft takeover in 2023.

Atm i have 0 Trust in them and no Hype for D4.I just hope it will be a good Game with no P2W Mechanics,Graphics looks good so far.

If its good i will play Poe 2 and D4,if it sucks i just enjoy Poe 2.

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jpkiwi wrote:

while Blizzard just milks their Playerbase for as much money they can with the least amount of effort put into their Games.


and u dont think that what PoE is about?

No its not all about money. Sure every Game Company wants and needs to make money but there is a big difference in how to achieve that.

PoE gets constant big Updates for free. You can choose to support them with supporter Packs or mtx but after you bought some Stash Tabs there is no need to invest any more money in the Game.

So now lets see how Blizz handles their Games. Diablo 3 came with an Real Money AH after you needed to pay for the Game you also paid for trading because Blizz took a Portion of every Real Money Trade.
To be fair they removed it but also did no big improvements to the Game in all these Years. Its basically the same Game since Release with some minor additions here and there. For the Expansion Reaper of Souls you again paid Money and i would argue the whole Expansion brought less Content to the Game than a free Update in PoE.

I will not even Start on WoW or WC3 refunded and everyone knows what a predatory pay 2 win shitshow diablo immortal is. There is a pattern here that is obvious in every Blizz Game nowadays.
Its no longer Gameplay First. Its Paytime First.

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M1cash1 wrote:

I hope Blizzard/Activision will be more srs about the Companys Reputation after
the Microsoft takeover in 2023.

Atm i have 0 Trust in them and no Hype for D4.I just hope it will be a good Game with no P2W Mechanics,Graphics looks good so far.

If its good i will play Poe 2 and D4,if it sucks i just enjoy Poe 2.

You would need to replace all C-Level employees. Stuff like that is not doable with just changing the guidelines on what is acceptable.

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Vepa wrote:

In the long run the better Game will have more Players and right now in my mind there is no question about it. PoE2 will beat D4 by miles because GGG has passion and puts work in their Game to improve it while Blizzard just milks their Playerbase for as much money they can with the least amount of effort put into their Games.

I hate to break it to you, but there is no doubt D4 will have superior numbers as long as it isn't abandoned like D3 was. The reason for that is simple, D4 will appeal to a much larger casual playerbase. The mmo crowd will likely play and check it out and that is also huge mass of players.

PoE(2) is in comparison a niche game, although successfull it does not have that level of pull on the larger casual market. The complexity and learning curve of PoE means it's going to attract a certain kind of more hardcore arpg player which is a smaller playerbase.

As for which game will be the best it remains to be seen, both look great so hopefully these two will be able to coexist and compete for many years to come, but there is no doubt a danger from PoE's point of view when it comes to player overlap.