Death penalty - a thorough suggestion
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It's a false argument to suggest 'you haven't been there, so you don't know anything about the path going there'. I've been to 98, admittedly, not 100. But it gives me a pretty good picture of what is fundamentally wrong with xp penalty: the fact that for the last few levels, choosing SC doesn't matter, whereas wannabe HC players force their will of playing HC progression wise on everybody else. Dying to hiccups didn't naturally help, either. But I'm sure the game must be performance wise perfect, and raising any doubts means the fault lies on heretics.
It's a bad thing to tie dying on regression in a progression based grinding game. This is psychologically demotivating. But don't take it on my word, take it on my action: I'm not playing PoE anymore, since I felt all my progression was constantly sabotaged on their part (actually xp penalty was just minor culprit there, but im not going there). It just didn't feel worth it. Also your attitude reeks so much elitism it's a wonder you can make yourselves kneel down to teach us plebs on what we should think. Anyways, none of this matters bc ggg doesnt't give a shit, as usual. Last edited by vmt80#6169 on Oct 20, 2021, 5:06:10 AM
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" Throwing a hissy fit and just saying "something" that sounds good to save your pride, won't get you very far. But i'm feeling generous so i will explain to you what i did. First i rejected your dismissive strawmen argument, which your purpose was to say that death penalty complaints are not valid, and the i pointed you in the right direction - the psychological effects of it. You can go a bit up and see some minor digging into that topic, but quite frankly i don't need to go in full depth. That topic has been beaten to death, and GGG didn't give a rats ass. I'm just enjoyed one of the good old topics a bit. Either way, it's very much on topic to point out the illogical aspects of people like yourself who come in to shoot OP down, as well as point them in the right direction. Far more on topic than coming in with strawmen and attacking everybodies logic when you aint better yourself. What i'm really doing is showing OP support against the mindless ones. I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all. Last edited by Crackmonster#7709 on Oct 20, 2021, 6:12:17 AM
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" No they just do not want their game become garbage like D3 or WoW because of excessive casualisation. In HC dying is not a option, so you really have to think about your defense. you can not play pure glass canon like SC. If they remove death penalty, It is barely a caricature, but cast on death based build become playable in POE. I am pretty sure you know it, you just try to hide you real motivation behind some moral cause, because they are not honorable. As i say, dying forced me to make my best build in ultimatum, was able to tank the sirus beam, Shaper/Uber slam with my Jugg I would never had to play better if they had not death penalty. that the point. It's always the same thing. "Lazy player" find a hard game, become frustrated of it, because basically the game say :"you sucks!", so they whine, devs listen, and it become garbage, because everyone can destroy the content in 1 day. Now the game say:" you are so strong GG " happy? After that, they just leave an go for an another game. I will never go level 100. It's ok people who play better and more can have it; i am not narcissistic to the point it affect me. Last edited by Nervantoss#3263 on Oct 20, 2021, 6:10:12 AM
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" These posts are born for clowning. And that'ss just what i'll dooooo. Nah, we had enough. You aint saying nothing, just attacking and disrespecting people that you look down on, with obvious flaws in critical thinking apparent all along. How can we talk to you? As for your info, i had several chars that just wouldn't die. And this league i will make another. You assume too much. I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
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The exp penalty can not only make you quit playing, it can make you seriously consider not playing the next league. For a game that cares about player retention, as all should, I'm not so sure this is such a good thing.
To alleviate the death penalty a few leagues ago I decided to make a tanky character, it still occasionally died to certain monster types with certain damage mods so I ended up grinding to level 100 in Heist and delve where my chance of death seemed close to zero. It didn't feel much of an achievement to reach 100, just rather a relief that I was now able to take on moderately challenging content without worrying about having days worth of exp bars grinded removed after a bad spell of deaths. I'm not sure I like the solution suggested here, I think a good solution would be to have some kind of "exp bonus bar" that you lose part of when you die. It should be okay to occasionally die on softcore, okay to play your subpar char and slowly grind away. Not a "go learn everything there is to know, make a new char and become a top 0.1% player" or go find and copy paste a meta never die build. |
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" So you decided to do the intelligent thing and actually build defences. *clap* this is a thing the majority of people don't do. Then they come and made threads here complaining about it with their own solutions to a problem that doesn't exist for people actually hitting level 100. |
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" They literally said they still died sometimes, making his point even clearer - despite him being a tank, they would still sometimes die. They also explained the whole process of getting to 100: it isn't challenging, just tedious. They've also completed 36/40 challenges this League and many before. They aren't a casual player and they are against the death penalty. It also baffles me that you're ignoring what literally everyone has been trying to get through to you. You truly don't seem to understand why people are asking for it to be removed. Let me spell it out to you: People want the exp penalty removed to reduce frustration while playing the game. That's it. They don't want it so that getting to 100 becomes easier. They want it so that if they die once in-between 20 maps they won't feel unneeded frustration. If the changes which I have proposed get implemented (ensuring you can gain exp from T11 maps or higher to level past 90), I am positive that you won't see full glass cannon builds going for those juicy T11 maps and clearing them so incredibly fast that it's somehow faster than a full tank Glad which has the same, if not faster, clear speed whilst being incredibly tanky. Also, I have made my account public so you can easily check for yourself that, yes, I do have a 95 Slayer and a 92 Glad. Last edited by Pow3rFr34K#3680 on Oct 20, 2021, 10:14:52 AM
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" Well fuck me then, u did git gut but nut gut inuff. Sir, my bad morals have been exposed! Go play hc and stop whining to us plebs. Last edited by vmt80#6169 on Oct 20, 2021, 11:46:52 AM
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No death penalty = level 100 on day 3 of new league with glass cannon 0 def, this is so obvious. Getting 100 is already too easy and you want everyone to get it with literaly 0 effort? like... LOL.
Biggest compliments for my crafted items - "bs, they must have been RMT'ed" I'm disabled, I have rare case of semperduravera, so I can write things that may look rude, but it is because of disability - I'm forced to tell truth using words you may not like. Last edited by Nomancs#6176 on Oct 20, 2021, 11:56:15 AM
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I agree.
If I got it right, there will only be one Tier 16 in 3.16, so. Hm. |
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