Steam charts isn't right.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

You need to face the fact that what they created the last 5 years is gone.

Holy fuck! I'm not stalking you, dude, but that's pretty far from "a fact".

you don't need to curse at me dude. I didnt curse at you ever.

you don't need to curse at me dude. I didnt curse at you ever. [/quote]

Sorry, I'm a Viking from the northern parts of Norway, it's just a normal part of my vocabulary. It will be hard to explain how English curse words are part of my Norwegian vocabulary, so I'm skipping that part.

Didn't mean to violate you. I cursed at your comment; not you.

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Xtorma wrote:

"Without the casual, the hardcore wouldn't have a game to play."

They are actually betting on the fact that this is not true at all. As long as they make their margins, they will be correct. You need to face the fact that what they created the last 5 years is gone.

They have all the data. the portion of their playerbase they are kicking to the curb has already been calculated and although it may have been a little harsher than what they predicted, rest assured they left themselves plenty of breathing room.

Seeing Chris doing one interview after another, they are definitely not making the margins right now.

Will they make them in 3.16? Depends.

Personally, I expect them to double down on the current course for 3.16 and only make real adjustments if that bombs as well.

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Xyel wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

"Without the casual, the hardcore wouldn't have a game to play."

They are actually betting on the fact that this is not true at all. As long as they make their margins, they will be correct. You need to face the fact that what they created the last 5 years is gone.

They have all the data. the portion of their playerbase they are kicking to the curb has already been calculated and although it may have been a little harsher than what they predicted, rest assured they left themselves plenty of breathing room.

Seeing Chris doing one interview after another, they are definitely not making the margins right now.

Will they make them in 3.16? Depends.

Personally, I expect them to double down on the current course for 3.16 and only make real adjustments if that bombs as well.

He is just trying to sell the changes because the game is not doing that on it's own. It's to be expected.

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Xtorma wrote:

He is just trying to sell the changes because the game is not doing that on it's own. It's to be expected.

That's just another way of saying that he's trying to save the player numbers :)

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Xyel wrote:

This is the purest demonstration of the current problems I have seen yet.

On the one hand, you have the sort-of casual, mediorce (no offense, I'm also that) player complaining he's not having fun.

On the other hand, you have the elite player telling him to git gud.

The thing is that the elite player has one supporter pack, while the mediocre one has an entire collection of supporter packs.

Without the casual, the hardcore wouldn't have a game to play.

But somehow, the game becoming unfun for the casuals is okay for the hardcore crowd, because hey, who needs casuals, right?

"instead of telling me what i do wrong let me do hardest content in game with any trash tier build i come up with"

Nice argument you got there man. Having trouble in t1-t3 maps is learn to play issue, purely. No amount of sugar coating you try to do will change that. You can do yelow maps in pure 1 alch unique gear (maybe some rares to fix your res). It has nothing to do with being hardcore or casual.

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kuciol wrote:

"instead of telling me what i do wrong let me do hardest content in game with any trash tier build i come up with"

The topic was/is t1-3 maps, which is very, very far from the hardest content in the game.

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Xyel wrote:

The topic was/is t1-3 maps, which is very, very far from the hardest content in the game.

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Read the rest before answering because your feelings got hurt. Having trouble with t1 maps Has nothing to do with being casual. [Removed by Support]

These type of posts always ignore the fact that many (I am betting most) do not use steam. And it never accounts for console players either. Without cross-play, I can understand that other platforms seem irrelevant to many, but they ARE still playing the game. Now we have Mac users to officially count as well.

Numbers are fun, but they are also deceptive. Especially when not accounting for ALL of the numbers.

Speaking of, @GGG , why is there still no cross-play? The benefits to both the community on all platforms, as well as to GGG's numbers (if they are concerned with it at all) would not exactly be small. Even if it was nothing more than a shared market, but not gameplay.

Times change, and cross-play options are becoming a big focus with gaming. Dont let yourselves get left behind.