This game is an abusive P2W slot machine feeding off of peoples' addictions.

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CanHazName wrote:

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LV9999Majin wrote:

Dude, you really need to chill. And get better. You've gotta be doin something really wrong to be getting "killed near immediately" in every encounter with that character. I don't get that though, you had a bad time playing so you're gonna spend all night raging on here?

If you're not going to add anything constructive to the discussion I'm sure everyone would appreciate you staying out of it.

Can do! Don't really wanna be a part of this terrible thread anyways. Have fun, with whatever you're accomplishing here.

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CanHazName wrote:

Well being such an experienced master of this game, please inform me. How am I expected to store all of my valuables in the default 4 stash tabs the game provides? How am I expected to not get killed near immediately in every encounter, due to the game refusing to drop anything better than the gear I acquired during act 2?

I've spent fifteen hours playing this game, and examined every presented aspect as much as humanly possible. There is no possible way for me to progress, aside from spending another 15 hours farming the act 3 catacombs for a possibility of a measly upgrade.

You sir, seem to be completely unaware of what you're saying.

Ok :)

Or you can buy 5 chaos or 20 alts worth of equipment and finish 10acts?

This is the kinda post i'd auto remove on a forum, PoE has a shitload of problems and we all gripe about them fairly regularly but this one could have the name removed and be fit to oh thats right every arpg.

OP gets a 10/10 though for trolling abilities and i'm yet to see a forum that actually moderates trolls, juiciest bait for a while.

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CanHazName wrote:

It baffles me you could just turn a blind eye to what is blatant abuse from a company as allegedly reputable as Grind Gear Games.

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CanHazName wrote:

Between being paygated and blown up repeatedly and I'm fairly confident this game is trash. How do any of you put up with this?

I feel like people (whether they did it in a constructive way or not pretty much covered most you've thrown "against" the game.)

I'm going to be fairly honest with you , the way you conceptualize things makes me not buy anything other than you being a troll in an alt account, but I can see a place where one might truly end up in your shoes and perhaps think similarly , albeit you're extremely dramatic about it.

Despite my expression towards your entire integrity , like its unfathomable to actually think you're some regular human being , i dont mean to demean you in any way and im sure you're a pretty intelligent individual. So why does it seem like you think you come from some sort of place where you caught on some bullshit that's impossible to see for the rest below you? Did you feel blatantly abused? Did you buy into anything unwillingly? If not , then why do you assume that the playerbase just bowed down to some sort of paywall to move forward and just happened to settle with that?

You're basically complaining for the lack of some comfort that's hidden behind paywalls. Its undeniable that your experience will just be much smoother and better with stash tabs than without them , but at the same time , you're not limited in any way to make as many accounts with maximum of the many free character slots each account allows you to. It's not bannable , its free infinite stash, its a hurdle but its undeniable that its by definition free to play and to be fair , its not even that bad if you're any decent at managing and keeping track of things , but you're just entitled to what services a paid game would hand out for free , and that's what pushes you away.

You're free to feel and do however you personally see fit, maybe you're just truly a curious soul that just doesn't get it and you truly came here to have your mind changed or atleast given perspective.

It's nothing really , most of us here have followed and seen the game change and grow with our own eyes , the reputiation of GGG has come from its insane constant risky and passionate choices that other companies wouldn't dare to attempt , instead of following their safe formula that sustains a game till it dies. It's things and systems that till act 3 that you've managed to reach , you haven't even seen a fraction of , you're still practically at the tutorial.

If you feel like the game does a bad job of giving you a good impression in it's tutorial phase before you see what the game is truly about , that's a whole different discussion than the one you came with (aka the payment side of it) , which is why I feel like you're trolling, because if you're struggling in normal acts I cant even comprehend where you adopted the idea that stashes even matter in anyway , because you shouldn't even have a proper need for them yet , to feel like you're lacking anything to begin with.

Does that make sense? Do you follow what i'm saying?

Came here for the click bait title, left a bit disappointed.
The game can be like the title, but not like your description. Then again, so can many other great games.

Lets take 2 other F2P games like warframe and planetside2. Can you play them totally free without buying stuff.
Absolutely! But it will take a great amount of effort to do so as you will have to slowly grind out and work for all your shiny's. Convenience is worth money, companies can and should capitalize on that.

How is that different to poe where you can do everything without paying, but it is easier and more comfortable with some money. If you filled up the 4 tabs before you even made it through the acts then my opinion is similar to the post above me.
This is a pebkac problem.

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isnotonline wrote:

Came here for the click bait title, left a bit disappointed.
The game can be like the title, but not like your description. Then again, so can many other great games.

Lets take 2 other F2P games like warframe and planetside2. Can you play them totally free without buying stuff.
Absolutely! But it will take a great amount of effort to do so as you will have to slowly grind out and work for all your shiny's. Convenience is worth money, companies can and should capitalize on that.

How is that different to poe where you can do everything without paying, but it is easier and more comfortable with some money. If you filled up the 4 tabs before you even made it through the acts then my opinion is similar to the post above me.
This is a pebkac problem.

gonna bust in and say Planetside 2 is about the fairest you can make a game thats f2p

the difference between a BR 120 and a BR 5 is like 5%, you could make a brand new character right now and if you were better at FPS than I am you'd wreck me all day (this is very likely, I suck on foot and play with 250ping)

Its wrong to even view it as grinding stuff out IMO thats part of the problem, unlocking things is progress for games without rpg stats its just there so players can work towards something.

If you just get your wallet out in many ways your just cheating yourself, that isn't to say you shouldn't support the developer paying players keep the game running but if you buy an EM6 you've gained functionally nothing over just sticking with the Saw and unlocking it naturally.

I actually agree with your point i Just wanted to praise PS2's f2p model really lol

You have seen nothing yet.

Wait till you get into maps and that troll Jun makes you bring back 10,000 100% useless rares for all recipes. Oh and 99% of time gives no recipe.

Or Wait will you try and farm harvest 2000x for a "remove non-influenced for influence" craft and it never shows!

Or you want a HH belt and farm burial chambers for it and takes 10,000 maps because drop rate nerfed recently...guess 2000 maps was too good LOL!

Better quit while you're ahead. And trust me you are ahead of us all.

You're not going to get common sense from addicts and stans..

Just quit while you can at least you didn't fall for the hype train and spend money on a supporter pack that you will end up regretting because of the league or patch was terrible.

OP:

Try to get as many crating recipes unlocked for your crafting bench as possible during campaign.

This way you can fill some gaps on your gear like movement speed, resistances or maximum life.


There first one is unlocked near end of act 2 in the caverns.

Here's a complete list, but look first for Helena recipes.

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Crafting_Bench

You can use this Wiki as a general source as information as lots of people do. Later you can add PoEDB if you're more experienced.

Also try to get a support gem or warcry so you're hitting more than one enemy each time, which would avoid you getting swarmed and eventually killed.

About the stash tabs.

Four tabs is indeed very little considering the current bloat (when doing league mechanics in maps) but in campaign you dont need that much space if you're not stockpiling scrolls or minor currency and only focussing on one character.

Here's a comparison in stack size and you could adjust the usage accordingly with your limited space.

https://poedb.tw/us/item.php?cn=StackableCurrency


Try to focus what you really need (skill gems,items, currency for respec) only for your current played character (Raider) to reduce the clutter in the limited amounts of default stash tabs.

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Kulthanel wrote:

You're not going to get common sense from addicts and stans..

Just quit while you can at least you didn't fall for the hype train and spend money on a supporter pack that you will end up regretting because of the league or patch was terrible.

Chris even said game is meant to be played forever. So they lock items behind layers of tedium (Jun) and unreasonable amounts of RNG (Harvest tier 4s) to keep you grinding. It's gone too far recently. OP just got lucky and figured it out in acts. Because you need no gear there to speak of. Just 50% res or so some MS boots and junk on the ground is fine.