PoE peaked in 3.13 and I am afraid that it may never go back up again...

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yamface wrote:

Ok let's talk about how this so called "peak" of poe 3.13 was played.

- Is your map haekwark hamelet? No? It's trash.
- Otherwise enter map
- Did the harvest quest activate? No? Leave map it means harvest didn't spawn
- Skip all other content

The way you had to play poe in 3.13 was stupid. Harvest invalidated everything else the game had to offer and if it was untouched it would also invalidate every other future league content.

It seems to me you are ignoring the mechanic that introduced in 3.13 which is maven passives that makes every part of atlas makes good for different in-game mechanics. To give an example, valdo for harbinger and bling, glennach for alva temple, lex prox for nico missions, lex ejoris for delirium, tirn's for beast catching, new vastir for legion and lira for beach + blight.
You could choose any of these areas and go wild with it.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

It seems to me you are ignoring the mechanic that introduced in 3.13 which is maven passives that makes every part of atlas makes good for different in-game mechanics. To give an example, valdo for harbinger and bling, glennach for alva temple, lex prox for nico missions, lex ejoris for delirium, tirn's for beast catching, new vastir for legion and lira for beach + blight.
You could choose any of these areas and go wild with it.

But why would you do any of that though? By the time you farm up a couple dozen exalts from harbingers or whatever, you could've been almost done with an entire item full of t1 mods.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

It seems to me that you are incapable of arguing without spouting obscenities. I won't go down to your level.

The build variety depends both on inventiveness and item accessibility. You could be as inventive as you want but if you can't find or craft any items it means nothing.
To add to that point, most of the player base copies already made builds so this usually creates a trade market that is special to that specific build requirements. So being more inventive wouldn't change your position in-game which determined by your capability of crafting those required items. Thus making crafts harder equates to limiting the accessibility of favored and well-used meta builds. As I stated before, this does not hurt elite players as I am but does so for the casual players.
A more accessible game creates a wider player base which, I presume, every game owner desires.

I fail to see how it doesnt hurt rich players if everyone in the game has 6 T1 items and since everyone has everything they need, theres no longer any reason to trade or interact with players ?

Also you just proved your own argument wrong by mentioning people copy and play other peoples builds. You can see what youre getting into by doing so, so why would you intentionally set yourself up for failure by going for a build that clearly states its expensive and isnt easy to make ?

You know you need a 100 exalt worth of itemization, why would you try that as a new player or casual player ? Youre intentionally ruining your own fun and setting yourself up for failure if you dont have the commitment to follow through and obtain whats needed in order to play it.

Why do you think budget builds exist ? Theyre literally the epitome of efficiency.

A rich player could make more of his expensive items thus making the market for that item more accessible for the casual players. This doesn't hurt the rich but helps the commoner.

I don't see your point there. It is normal for people to copy other players. It is not the player's fault for making those hardly made items less accessible for the casuals. It is GGG's fault for nerfing every other option to craft a proper item.

You see, when you have no builds to go with or no items to craft, the build variety played by the casual player drops down. This does not only shrink down the market space for these items but also convinces casuals not to play a wider variety of builds. This will eventually lead to what GGG is clearly trying to avoid which is the monotonous state of builds played in the softcore trade league. I will not mention hc or ssf because there are limitations that changes the build variety.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Theres my old helmet even from my remove only tabs from breach. But please continue :^]

What does this outdated standard garbage item proof?

Your claims:"Earthquake Berserker most played meta" and "Harvest craft busted target farm all day"

Show me the statistics that proof your point.
Show me your superior 3.14 crafts - still waiting.
Basically show any proof that bacsk up what you saying other than claiming baseless bullshit.

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yamface wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

It seems to me you are ignoring the mechanic that introduced in 3.13 which is maven passives that makes every part of atlas makes good for different in-game mechanics. To give an example, valdo for harbinger and bling, glennach for alva temple, lex prox for nico missions, lex ejoris for delirium, tirn's for beast catching, new vastir for legion and lira for beach + blight.
You could choose any of these areas and go wild with it.

But why would you do any of that though? By the time you farm up a couple dozen exalts from harbingers or whatever, you could've been almost done with an entire item full of t1 mods.

There is a limit to the items you could get full of t1 mods.
+ it becomes boring running atolls after a while. For example, I love running beach for how easy is the layout.

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zzang wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Theres my old helmet even from my remove only tabs from breach. But please continue :^]

What does this outdated standard garbage item proof?

Your claims:"Earthquake Berserker most played meta" and "Harvest craft busted target farm all day"

Show me the statistics that proof your point.
Show me your superior 3.14 crafts - still waiting.
Basically show any proof that bacsk up what you saying other than claiming baseless bullshit.

"Baselss" lol, its baseless because you personally think its baseless. Old standard "garbage" is proof of my itemization of what ive played.

Youre soo upset its hilarious. Whats funnier is my account got hacked into a long time ago and i dont even have a fraction of what i used to but ill slap this in your face while im at it.



<]:^]

Edit - BTW if harvest is soo bad why is everyone and their mother target farming harvest and posting their crafts on the forums showcase and reddit ?

<]:^] go ahead im waiting.

I had a lot of fun in 3.13. but i dont know... 3.14 feels boring as fu**, with all the changes and so I stopped playing, after just a week and will take a break.

I would love to see the game back to the state of 3.13 next league, but i guess it wont (probably even worse xD).

It feels like the only reason to write here in the forum is to exchange ideas and talk with other players. GGG doesn't read here anyway, unless someone posts something in the wrong topic. It feels absolutely pointless to give serious feedback here, at least for me.

All serious feedback about 3.13 amounts to "I want easier access to better items".

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Youre soo upset its hilarious. Whats funnier is my account got hacked into a long time ago and i dont even have a fraction of what i used to but ill slap this in your face while im at it.

<]:^]

Cool Story bro. Another standard item that was worth 50ex before 3.14 for its MTX skin transfer and 50ex in standard is like nothing.

I corrupted 5 of these and made white base items with vendor receipe out of them:


Back to the point of your claims:

"Target farm broken harvest" and "Berserker most played meta".

Where is the statistics?
Where are your godly 3.14 crafts from the target farmed crafts in league?
Can you proof anything that you are claiming?

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zzang wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Youre soo upset its hilarious. Whats funnier is my account got hacked into a long time ago and i dont even have a fraction of what i used to but ill slap this in your face while im at it.

<]:^]

Cool Story bro. Another standard item that was worth 50ex before 3.14 for its MTX skin transfer and 50ex in standard is like nothing.

I corrupted 5 of these and made white base items with vendor receipe out of them:

Back to the point of your claims:

"Target farm broken harvest" and "Berserker most played meta".

Where is the statistics?
Where are your godly 3.14 crafts from the target farmed crafts in league?
Can you proof anything that you are claiming?

Heres one just to tickle your fancy a little. I could definitely continue to craft after reforging it but theres no point, but someone else gladly can.

Also its funny you keep spamming the same thing, maybe take a look at the build guide forums and the fact that my main was a zerker even 5 years ago.

Its funny that youre going to sit here and say it isnt busted when melee slam is literally one of the most broken things in the game right now but here you are saying zerker and slams arent top tier. Pretty cute.

Craftings easy as fuck with harvest. But yeah you just ignore anything and everything other people say and then post purchased demi gods. OMEGALUL.

PSA - All my alt art collect is on my actual racing account. But thats cute that you posted purchased demis.