Ultimatum and summoners

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MrPedez wrote:
They are really not more broken than many of the other builds out there. But i guess u are not playing summoner cause then u would know that its pretty hard to build defence and since u have to focus a lot on minions def and dps. Basically this means it might be easier to focus on dodging damage but once u do get hit u will get smacked. Wish people would stop hating on specific builds and playstyles just because they dont like them


I don't dislike Summons strictly. I dislike auto-damage and cloning as a concept.

Both allow a player to focus on avoiding mechanics while generally ignoring offense and they compound with a character's normal defenses / avoidance abilities. It's not something that can be numerically compared so it causes problems in an RPG game when trying to balance damage.

It's not just Summons. I've disliked next-room-Totem builds since this game was in beta.
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Exxxiled665 wrote:


with that tabula build you definitely die more than i do,you're just trolling this thread. its obvious now. you're not worth any more replies unless you post video proof of all your BS claims. bye


What are you smoking lol
I've died once today, playing one-handed, on the phone...
I couldn't give a shit about gear, just chilling, farming up some exp.

What is your obsession with my Tabula? Why are you trying to attack me? lol

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Also, this STILL has nothing to do with minion survivability...
Clearly, you are the one trolling here, too scared to show your character.
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Chalace2 wrote:
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Exxxiled665 wrote:


with that tabula build you definitely die more than i do,you're just trolling this thread. its obvious now. you're not worth any more replies unless you post video proof of all your BS claims. bye


What are you smoking lol
I've died once today, playing one-handed, on the phone...
I couldn't give a shit about gear, just chilling, farming up some exp.

What is your obsession with my Tabula? Why are you trying to attack me? lol

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Also, this STILL has nothing to do with minion survivability...
Clearly, you are the one trolling here, too scared to show your character.


he is right tho, you come here , very toxic, trolling. Maybe my report will make teh moderators give you a suspension from these forums for a while
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KopaKabana wrote:
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Chalace2 wrote:
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Exxxiled665 wrote:


with that tabula build you definitely die more than i do,you're just trolling this thread. its obvious now. you're not worth any more replies unless you post video proof of all your BS claims. bye


What are you smoking lol
I've died once today, playing one-handed, on the phone...
I couldn't give a shit about gear, just chilling, farming up some exp.

What is your obsession with my Tabula? Why are you trying to attack me? lol

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Also, this STILL has nothing to do with minion survivability...
Clearly, you are the one trolling here, too scared to show your character.


he is right tho, you come here , very toxic, trolling. Maybe my report will make teh moderators give you a suspension from these forums for a while


How am I trolling? Toxic? lol
By saying that they can survive just fine? Because I'm doing it...

You can see my links, you can see my gear, which begs the question of why he refuses to show his. (We know why)

This just keeps getting better.
Last edited by Chalace2#1463 on Apr 26, 2021, 7:12:20 PM
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Chalace2 wrote:


How am I trolling? Toxic? lol
By saying that they can survive just fine? Because I'm doing it...

You can see my links, you can see my gear, which begs the question of why he refuses to show his. (We know why)

This just keeps getting better.


what is your obsession with my gear? your toxic as hell,not sure why the mods are ignoring this.

you hijacked my thread and turned it into an argument. when called to show proof that your minions can survive you refuse (we know why)
Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Apr 26, 2021, 7:31:12 PM
It's now considered 'toxic' to disagree with a baseless opinion on a discussion forum?

I've done nothing more than asking to see your character. You however have (laughably) targeted random, insignificant bits of gear, insulted me personally, and eluded the point since the start.

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Evidently, you insist on refusing to give any insight whatsoever...
Showing your character profile directly relates to the validity of your remarks.

Instead, you are just throwing around insults like you have no leg to stand on.

So, whose being unproductive and toxic here?
my characters are none of your business. go it? but i said i would show it when you show a video of your BS lies and record your minions surviving a t16 ultimatum
its a shame that the mods let you ruin my thread because you defend the game mechanic. if it was the other way around and you bashed the game you would get dealt with. beyond pathetic

this thread is ruined so if someone could lock it that would be great.
Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Apr 26, 2021, 8:23:17 PM
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Chalace2 wrote:
It's now considered 'toxic' to disagree with a baseless opinion on a discussion forum?


Yes. You gotta learn the new lingo:

"Toxic" = anyone with a different subjective opinion than yours.

"Troll" = anyone who calls you out on saying something objectively untrue.

"RMTer" = anyone better than you at the game.
Last edited by ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 on Apr 27, 2021, 4:47:13 AM
I tried some ultimatums during the campaign and later in white maps and my mobs were dying extremely quickly, and when an army of overbuffed mobs stick to you if you stop running to summon them again you'll get a high chance of dying. Overall necro feels a lot weaker indeed, don't know how it is with high level gear though, I stopped before as I just wanted the 12 challenges.
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Last edited by Synopsis#1060 on Apr 27, 2021, 6:51:41 AM
Have you tried using predator support and getting the minions to focus down the nasty rares? When you get a few of them up together their stacked buffs can get unmanageable.

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