Ultimatum and summoners

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Jinxxxed wrote:
This is the most unbalanced and unoriginal and unbalanced and unrewarding and unbalanced and overp... and unbalanced league I played so far. I've been playing the game more seriously since metamorph.
I only do the stupid ultimatums because of the challenge that requires to take all sorts of the different types of rewards to complete. When I do that, ultimatum is over for me.
I don't mind dying once in a while on a juicy map or some Uber Boss fight, but in ritual even the 1st wave is very often a overkill.

Fix your f^%&^&^% legue.


I'm playing a pretty off-meta infernal blow raider, and I'm full clearing 9 wave ultimata in delirious red maps.

It's not impossible, you just need to build better defenses and stop standing still.
Did some T16, and a tonne of T11-15's, no issues so far. I'm lacking some damage if anything. (By wave 4 or 5 the mobs start to stack up a bit)

My minions died more killing the Acid caverns boss once than they have doing ultimatums all day.
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Lostbird wrote:
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Chalace2 wrote:
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Exxxiled665 wrote:

sure i'm at fault for GGG's inability to balance the game. look around the forum,many people are complaining that the ultimatum mobs are out of control with their damage. my minions never die to anything else.
i'm done wasting my time with you. cya


The mobs being overturned has nothing to do with the fact your crying about your minions dying when others are doing just fine; meanwhile refusing to show what you are even using.

But sure, again, it's the 'game'.



From what I'm seeing, there is definitely an issue at the start of endgame. This isn't Heist, this isn't Ritual - at T1 maps, these trials will drill you a new orifice while you waltz through regular content.

Something is a bit squiffy here for sure.


yeah i think most people agree that they are overtuned except that guy who claims to be doing just fine with his tabula in t16's. haha
Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Apr 26, 2021, 5:25:46 AM
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Exxxiled665 wrote:



yeah i think most people agree that they are overtuned except that guy who claims to be doing just fine with his tabula in t16's. haha


I was even using slave drivers, which are pretty low on the def scale lol
I just swapped to crabs, and even took out the elemental army gem...

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What does me using a tabula have to do with anything? All that means is when i finally find a +1 chest, stuff will die even faster!

P.S Your character is still hidden...
Why do i get the feeling your using a 3 link zombie with infernal legoion and GMP or something :)
Last edited by Chalace2#1463 on Apr 26, 2021, 2:57:42 PM
i will show you my character when you post a video of you doing a t16 ultimatum deathless with your glass cannon tabula build. the last time i checked you didnt even have move speed boots. seriously how can you map with no mov speed? :)
Firstly, glass cannon? lol
Another clear example of you not having a clue... about anything.

Secondly, when did move speed boots aid in the survivability of minions? It doesn't? Ah... another diversion, lol.

It's cute you are trying to insult me, shame it has zero weight while you hide.
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Chalace2 wrote:
Firstly, glass cannon? lol
Another clear example of you not having a clue... about anything.

Secondly, when did move speed boots aid in the survivability of minions? It doesn't? Ah... another diversion, lol.

It's cute you are trying to insult me, shame it has zero weight while you hide.


yes glass cannon...i have almost 6.5k HP with 10 zombies leeching for me with the baron helmet.
i just mentioned mov speed to highlight how clueless you are about the game. people usually get 10% mov speed boots while they are in act 2-3, no mov speed at end game is almost unheard of. now kindly stop trolling my thread and move on.
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Exxxiled665 wrote:
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Chalace2 wrote:
Firstly, glass cannon? lol
Another clear example of you not having a clue... about anything.

Secondly, when did move speed boots aid in the survivability of minions? It doesn't? Ah... another diversion, lol.

It's cute you are trying to insult me, shame it has zero weight while you hide.


yes glass cannon...i have almost 6.5k HP with 10 zombies leeching for me with the baron helmet.
i just mentioned mov speed to highlight how clueless you are about the game. people usually get 10% mov speed boots while they are in act 2-3, no mov speed at end game is almost unheard of. now kindly stop trolling my thread and move on.


Ah, you're one of those...

I'll take my max Phys res and block cap over your 1k hp :P
Thanks for the 'help' tho.

Oh, wait... I'm not the one crying about dying! :)

Cute.
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Chalace2 wrote:
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Exxxiled665 wrote:
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Chalace2 wrote:
Firstly, glass cannon? lol
Another clear example of you not having a clue... about anything.

Secondly, when did move speed boots aid in the survivability of minions? It doesn't? Ah... another diversion, lol.

It's cute you are trying to insult me, shame it has zero weight while you hide.


yes glass cannon...i have almost 6.5k HP with 10 zombies leeching for me with the baron helmet.
i just mentioned mov speed to highlight how clueless you are about the game. people usually get 10% mov speed boots while they are in act 2-3, no mov speed at end game is almost unheard of. now kindly stop trolling my thread and move on.


Ah, you're one of those...

I'll take my max Phys res and block cap over your 1k hp :P
Thanks for the 'help' tho.

Oh, wait... I'm not the one crying about dying! :)

Cute.


with that tabula build you definitely die more than i do,you're just trolling this thread. its obvious now. you're not worth any more replies unless you post video proof of all your BS claims. bye
Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Apr 26, 2021, 4:00:00 PM
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Xzorn wrote:
You cam avoid those Totems that deal +%Based Damage.

Not really sympathetic to Summoner problems though. Esp when the flawed but fixable Heist concept was turned into boring mapping due to people playing hordes of summons in a stealth league.

Summoners are just broken by concept. ie creating numerous other targets besides the player.
Conditions like that are why GGG has trouble balancing damage output vs intake. Soon as players start making clones of themselves, summons or whatever, survival goes up exponentially.

In the end if a build doesn't work for you in a league. Try another build. Not every build should excel at everything and it's just one league. Much like Heist you can eventually choose to just not do it.
They are really not more broken than many of the other builds out there. But i guess u are not playing summoner cause then u would know that its pretty hard to build defence and since u have to focus a lot on minions def and dps. Basically this means it might be easier to focus on dodging damage but once u do get hit u will get smacked. Wish people would stop hating on specific builds and playstyles just because they dont like them

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