Harvest Changes - Kick and Scream

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

Drugs are bad.

As I've said and keep saying. Harvest is fine in its current state tft is the culprit.

Well that's nice and I agree but there's no way around that. I know this and you should know this, but don't.

And thanks for accusing me of being too high to think. Deflecting blame.

there are plenty of ways around tft

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RitualMurder wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

Drugs are bad.

As I've said and keep saying. Harvest is fine in its current state tft is the culprit.

Well that's nice and I agree but there's no way around that. I know this and you should know this, but don't.

And thanks for accusing me of being too high to think. Deflecting blame.

there are plenty of ways around tft

I feel like if you knew of any good ways, you'd list them. The core of the problem is that you can use your own crafts on other people's items. The only way to solve this, according to someone who is experienced in coding, is to make harvested items non-tradeable after the fact or to remove the crafts after they are used by someone else.

If the next thing you say doesn't meet a certain threshold of sensibility, I'm going to ignore it.

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RitualMurder wrote:

Drugs are bad.

As I've said and keep saying. Harvest is fine in its current state tft is the culprit.

TFT isnt the culpirt. GGG is. They pushed their player base into using Discord by making Harvest crafts untradeable.

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

But we all know your parents knew what was best for you.

Jeezus krikey, can we stop already?

First the forums were filled with post complaining about the harvest changes. Kinda obvious, because it's a big nerf.
Once the hubbub started dying down, the white knights are out in force, continually making "harverst nerf good!" posts.

Can we please just lay this fsking topic to rest? At least until the consequences of the changes become apparent next league. Pretty please?

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camapngu133 wrote:

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RitualMurder wrote:

Drugs are bad.

As I've said and keep saying. Harvest is fine in its current state tft is the culprit.

TFT isnt the culpirt. GGG is. They pushed their player base into using Discord by making Harvest crafts untradeable.

The reason people say TFT is the issue is because people with bank can effectively buy as many crafts as needed to finish an item, assuming their currency lets them.

Making crafts tradable does not solve this, it would just lower the odds of getting scammed.

I dont really care if harvest stays, or gets the nerf mentioned, or if its even absolutely deleted.

My concern is the mentality behind it, "we feel communities pooling crafts is bad, therefore we nerf crafts and wont touch the underlying issue."

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fancyfootwork wrote:

"we feel communities pooling crafts is bad, therefore we nerf crafts and wont touch the underlying issue."

This isn't GGG's intention.
Did you know they published a Manifesto about this?

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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fancyfootwork wrote:

"we feel communities pooling crafts is bad, therefore we nerf crafts and wont touch the underlying issue."

This isn't GGG's intention.
Did you know they published a Manifesto about this?

Yep. Here is the line from said manifesto

"With Harvest integrated into the core game with 3.13.0, players still made ridiculous items. Even the crafts we made quite rare felt pretty common when the entire community was pooling them together and using them on the right items."

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SisterBlister wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

But we all know your parents knew what was best for you.

Jeezus krikey, can we stop already?

First the forums were filled with post complaining about the harvest changes. Kinda obvious, because it's a big nerf.
Once the hubbub started dying down, the white knights are out in force, continually making "harverst nerf good!" posts.

Can we please just lay this fsking topic to rest? At least until the consequences of the changes become apparent next league. Pretty please?

I don't think so. The so-called white knights enjoy the tears very much.

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crunkatog wrote:

It's not a whole rant thread, just a dingleberry pinched off from a previous rant thread that may or may not have gotten the flush.

Nothing to see here, move right along

Well there is this for whatever it's worth to anyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWA2AbxBJk

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Johny_Snow wrote:

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SisterBlister wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

But we all know your parents knew what was best for you.

Jeezus krikey, can we stop already?

First the forums were filled with post complaining about the harvest changes. Kinda obvious, because it's a big nerf.
Once the hubbub started dying down, the white knights are out in force, continually making "harverst nerf good!" posts.

Can we please just lay this fsking topic to rest? At least until the consequences of the changes become apparent next league. Pretty please?

I don't think so. The so-called white knights enjoy the tears very much.

Wow, that's a crap attitude to have. I mean, there is no information, nor basis for discussion in these posts anymore. They just boil down to either
- "Nanana, told you so, I'm soooo clever!" or
- "Suck on that, you noob plebs, hah!"

The explanations (from both sides) and real discussions are long over. The cries about a nerfed mechanic are mostly over, it's just these clowns left? Fuck me, that's a poor show.