Harvest Changes - Kick and Scream

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

GGG will make sure you have fun right way and not wrong way - the way you want.

what?

Not sure why you didn't catch it.

Here is your explanation.

Community loved more or less deterministic crafting with Harvest and GGG comes in in hot with "No, you have fun wrong way! Here, take Exalt, close your eyes and slam. We know you love to gamble!"

And it's not just about crafting and harvest. GGG is more and more distant from playerbase.

I liked Annuls too, but they were too good in that they, among other things, invalidated most other crafting methods. Second, STOP EXALT SLAMMING. Just because you don't know how to craft doesn't mean you have to muddy the waters with lack of knowledge.

And please, for the love of GOD stop thinking you know this much more than the people who brought this game up from a KICKSTARTER and work with it everyday. It's painful to watch this terrible logic repeated over and over again.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

What if dad was a pimp and mom mainlined heroin?

Is that how you see GGG?

Just disagree with idea of parents know best.

Please just appreciate the analogy.

Yeah sorry. I'm home for the week now after second covid shot. Getting grumpy as hell.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

But we all know your parents knew what was best for you.

GGG will make sure you have fun right way and not wrong way - the way you want.

Diablo 3 exists and has deterministic crafting

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Not sure why you didn't catch it.

Here is your explanation.

Community loved more or less deterministic crafting with Harvest and GGG comes in in hot with "No, you have fun wrong way! Here, take Exalt, close your eyes and slam. We know you love to gamble!"

And it's not just about crafting and harvest. GGG is more and more distant from playerbase.

There's a difference between "more deterministic crafting" and an item editor.

When you can start with an item with 6x bad t16 mod and turn it into a 6x t1 mods then thats a bit more than just a "more deterministic" crafting method.

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Krayken wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

Not sure why you didn't catch it.

Here is your explanation.

Community loved more or less deterministic crafting with Harvest and GGG comes in in hot with "No, you have fun wrong way! Here, take Exalt, close your eyes and slam. We know you love to gamble!"

And it's not just about crafting and harvest. GGG is more and more distant from playerbase.

There's a difference between "more deterministic crafting" and an item editor.

When you can start with an item with 6x bad t16 mod and turn it into a 6x t1 mods then thats a bit more than just a "more deterministic" crafting method.

Yes.
In fact, harvest is still very good in that you can Augment in a targeted way. If people were SMART, they would lock prefixes and suffixes so that you could also Annul in a targeted way to eventually get the T1 mods you want.
If you get a prefix when you don't want it, use the Remove NON X/ Add X. There's way more to this than many seem to think.

Learn what is available and be creative.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

But we all know your parents knew what was best for you.

GGG will make sure you have fun right way and not wrong way - the way you want.

This game allows you more build flexibility than pretty much any of its competitors, both past and foreseeable future. Last Epoch is a hot topic right now for instance - try making builds there that don't fit in with the 'best way' the devs have pre-laid out for you. GGG nerfs things that get out of hand, other ARPG's mostly don't even allow you to explore off their set path to begin with.

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

In fact, harvest is still very good in that you can Augment in a targeted way. If people were SMART, they would lock prefixes and suffixes so that you could also Annul in a targeted way to eventually get the T1 mods you want.
If you get a prefix when you don't want it, use the Remove NON X/ Add X. There's way more to this than many seem to think.

Learn what is available and be creative.

Anyone who misrepresents the light nerf coming to Harvest as GGG 'removing Harvest' is probably not the type of person interested in creatively thinking for themselves.

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innervation wrote:

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Noble_Seiken wrote:

In fact, harvest is still very good in that you can Augment in a targeted way. If people were SMART, they would lock prefixes and suffixes so that you could also Annul in a targeted way to eventually get the T1 mods you want.
If you get a prefix when you don't want it, use the Remove NON X/ Add X. There's way more to this than many seem to think.

Learn what is available and be creative.

Anyone who misrepresents the light nerf coming to Harvest as GGG 'removing Harvest' is probably not the type of person interested in creatively thinking for themselves.

Exactly, but they could change and get better.

It's not a whole rant thread, just a dingleberry pinched off from a previous rant thread that may or may not have gotten the flush.

Nothing to see here, move right along