Harvest OP

I play mostly Standard and I don't play a lot. Harvest is what keeps me excited about grinding maps - I have a stash full of items I want to improve for my characters. I hope it remains in the game in its current form.

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maniard wrote:

I play mostly Standard and I don't play a lot. Harvest is what keeps me excited about grinding maps - I have a stash full of items I want to improve for my characters. I hope it remains in the game in its current form.

I hope it gets buffed, particularly for Standard League, where it doesn't hurt anyone.

If Harvest remains, crafts need to be account bound.

If Harvest goes, just play lazy meta builds that require zero crafting.

There is no middle ground. This is PoE.

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

If Harvest remains, crafts need to be account bound.

If Harvest goes, just play lazy meta builds that require zero crafting.

There is no middle ground. This is PoE.

? harvest is fine. just move on.

Harvest is totally fine as it is and it is good for casuals, middle class players, advanced people. Actually it hurts the top 0.1% the most (in trade league), but they don't care and make it work anyway. The assumption that top tier players would be the only beneficiaries from harvest is just plain wrong 😂 here's why:

1. Low tier players/casuals:
- they are completely new to the whole crafting in general and will never be able to see any 2 digit currency. For them even the target rerolls via harvest can prove worthy and those are plenty. They also might be able to fix resistances easier with for example cold to fire and rare remove/adds. If they are not interested at all in crafting simple max life + res items are easier affordable due to much more items like that on the market thanks to harvest.


2. Middle Class players
For those as well - they can profit by a huge margin from safe and secure augments with a good weight or just targeted slams to get their items a bit more punch. Instead of grabbling for exalts all the time which does not hit anything they want they can use harvest to improve their few items and maybe get a bit more into the endgsme that was previously not obtainable. Aforementioned argument alsp applys to this class.

3. Advanced players
Those players actually make money with harvest - beforehand they were not able to follow top tier strategies like boss-carries in day 2 of the league, 100% deli maps or deep delve tue to a lack of erficiency, time or knowledge. They are behind the curve and even though their understanding of the game is somewhat there they can't make it into the big leagues. Harvest offers a simple solution. Tons of crafts can be sold quite well, here are the current prices:
Remove/add elemental stats 1ex, remove/add chaos 1ex, remove/add life 2ex, augments in roughly the same area, removes round about 20-50% cheaper but still very worth it, fracture prefix 2.5ex. "hey Vennto u always count only the big crafts".
Aight, here it goes: res conversion 25c,reforge keep prefix 35c, keep suffix 25c, divination card gamble 50c,sextants does not consume charge 40c, colour conversion 20-25c. All that stuff sells.
From that money those players make via harvest they can eigher buy really good stuff or craft their own very first endgame item close to perfection. Again a player-level that profits from harvest.

4. The 0.1% players
Nothing changes. They always had the best gear. They always will have it. Its easier to make, but that wouldn't stop those players anyway. Mirror tier items still exist, mirror services are still in demand, mirror prices still go up. And who the hell did say that those players does not want others to have good gear? That is one of the most stupid arguments i have ever read in this forum, because do you kmow how many of them actually make money? Crafting. For profit. FOR OTHERS. U CANT MAKE MONEY IF YOU DON'T SELL THE STUFF.

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Orbaal wrote:

Potentially there is one less RNG element, since the sockets are baked into the active gem.

If their approach doesnt change this should mean all socketed support gems dont need to be linked to support the active gem. Just like the Soulwrest staff works.

If that was true, then fusings should be obsolete and gone.
However I think it would be naive to assume we´ll be able to find as many jewellers as we do right now or rolling max sockets will be as easy as it is right now.

Getting a 6l will still be a grind. Id be shocked if that wasnt the case ;)

If you watch Q&A session in Exilecon they stated that in PoE2 orb of fusing is no more and there proof https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_2 (check Skill gems & sockets section)

And i don't get the why people crying about harvest. If you don't want item with all rolls t1 just don't buy/craft them. How the hell it hurts you if PoE is a solo game. How many play PvP? Party content not exist in this game since you can do the same solo and it only affects drop rate and exp.

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maniard wrote:

I play mostly Standard and I don't play a lot. Harvest is what keeps me excited about grinding maps - I have a stash full of items I want to improve for my characters. I hope it remains in the game in its current form.

Of course it does it's 1000x better than anything else. Hence "harvest OP"

Usually GGG doesnt allow things way better than anything else for long...

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Desrers wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

Potentially there is one less RNG element, since the sockets are baked into the active gem.

If their approach doesnt change this should mean all socketed support gems dont need to be linked to support the active gem. Just like the Soulwrest staff works.

If that was true, then fusings should be obsolete and gone.
However I think it would be naive to assume we´ll be able to find as many jewellers as we do right now or rolling max sockets will be as easy as it is right now.

Getting a 6l will still be a grind. Id be shocked if that wasnt the case ;)

If you watch Q&A session in Exilecon they stated that in PoE2 orb of fusing is no more and there proof https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_2 (check Skill gems & sockets section)

I did watch it long time ago, couldnt quite remember and was also too lazy to look it up xD

Thx for clarification tho

Simply put, harvest is a mirror gear printing factory. Think about that. Harvest items MUST be account bound. As it is, the economy will never recover. Chaos orbs are worthless, nobody needs it anymore. What is terribly sad is, PoE is at the end of its life. Excess power creep, easy mirror gear, zero challenge. The once mighty Diablo 2 spiritual successor now succumbed to the likes of a P2W mobile game.

Enjoy gaming exiles, the phrase “careful what you wish for” need not apply. It is already too late.

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Vennto wrote:

Harvest is totally fine as it is

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Not a fight. Not a boss fight. Not some epic survival arena series of fights. A completely unsecure 3rd party chat app is the final boss. It's a joke.