Why do Rangers get to have quivers?

I have asked this question as well. And while I feel that yes, bows are "weaker" than the melee 2h counterparts, the bow SKILLS make up for this. Lightning Arrow, Explosive Arrow, etc etc.

Also that whole ranged thing.

So yeah, it is easy to say that melee 2h deal more damage than ranged 2h, but... they really dont. DPS wise they end up very close together or with ranged taking an easy lead thanks to the effects of chain and the like.

I HOPE the new melee support skills help this but, we shall see.

mmmm, if you are going to include logic, then you must first explain where you get the infinite amount of arrows.

oh, and we need to add in durability, otherwise stuff never break.

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PaletNoir wrote:

mmmm, if you are going to include logic, then you must first explain where you get the infinite amount of arrows.

oh, and we need to add in durability, otherwise stuff never break.

logic is obviously included in game design...

here are the facts:

bows are light , people using bows use quivers, it takes 1 hand to hold a bow and 2 hands to fire a bow
2h weapons are heavy, a person wielding a 2h weapon does not have a third hand to hold a support, a 2h weapon takes 2 hands to hold it and 2 hands to attack with it

there is no durability like there is no limit to number of arrows its called removing complexity

in order for this game to have a "repair" function

there would need to be a standard currency which the developers do not want

thats retarded..its not about logic, but its about balance..

bow user have the advantage of range, and damage due to lightning arrow, lmp, chain and etc so why the hell do they get additional slot for more damage and survivability ?

70+ life from quiver is a lot..a bow user can get up to 5 - 6k hp without kaom heart mainly because of quiver

while 2h melee and dual wield get the end of the stick and end up having lower hp than bow user.

casters on the other hand, they just use freezing pulse, spark and a shield.

more reasons why melee classes are gimped

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fortispectus wrote:

thats retarded..its not about logic, but its about balance..

bow user have the advantage of range, and damage due to lightning arrow, lmp, chain and etc so why the hell do they get additional slot for more damage and survivability ?

70+ life from quiver is a lot..a bow user can get up to 5 - 6k hp without kaom heart mainly because of quiver

while 2h melee and dual wield get the end of the stick and end up having lower hp than bow user.

casters on the other hand, they just use freezing pulse, spark and a shield.

more reasons why melee classes are gimped

bows do about same dmg as 1h weps

its a tradeoff between 2 1H weps or 1H wep + Shield

logic

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Arbitraged wrote:

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fortispectus wrote:

thats retarded..its not about logic, but its about balance..

bow user have the advantage of range, and damage due to lightning arrow, lmp, chain and etc so why the hell do they get additional slot for more damage and survivability ?

70+ life from quiver is a lot..a bow user can get up to 5 - 6k hp without kaom heart mainly because of quiver

while 2h melee and dual wield get the end of the stick and end up having lower hp than bow user.

casters on the other hand, they just use freezing pulse, spark and a shield.

more reasons why melee classes are gimped

bows do about same dmg as 1h weps

its a tradeoff between 2 1H weps or 1H wep + Shield

logic

i wish that is true, but archers have better skill than 1h weps or 2h

good luck proving everyone that dual strike and heavy strike is better than lightning arrow

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2H weapons can go up to 500(?) damage? A top end bow can manage 300+ at best.

^^^^^^^^^^

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Arbitraged wrote:

a person using a bow needs arrows (obvious)

a quiver weights very low weight and sits on your back

you only hold a bow with 1 hand unless you are firing the arrow while not firing the bow you are using your 2nd hand to grab an arrow from your quiver

a 2 handed weapon has massive weight and needs to be held with both hands at all times

/logic

i suggest a 'Weapon grip' for off hand melee 2 handers.

got the idea from FFXI, 2handed weapons could be assigned a weapon grip for small additional bonus stats.

i would say that due to base dmg being > than bows, weapon grips should only be able to have half of the max stats a quiver can have.

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fortispectus wrote:

i wish that is true, but archers have better skill than 1h weps or 2h

good luck proving everyone that dual strike and heavy strike is better than lightning arrow

trade-offs in weapon selection in POE

caster: wand + kite shield vs staff vs wand + spirit shield

melee/bow: 1h + armor shield vs 1h + es shield vs 1h + eva shield vs 1h + (any of the hybrid shields) vs 2x 1H vs 2H vs bow+quiver

this thread is not about skills

this thread is titled why do rangers get to have quivers

so the skills is not in question here,

it is

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why do rangers get to have quivers

the answer is because that's a trade off, there is always a trade-off

2H WEP = more dmg , less life
Bow + Quiver = less dmg chance for life/res /etc
2x 1H = less dmg than 2h, but higher chance for ias , resist, etc
1h + shield = less dmg, more armor life resistance, etc

Right.

So in real life, since you use a 2 handed bow, you can't have a quiver because you are using 2 hands to use a bow.

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