XP loss on death = time loss. Time loss = frustration/negative feelings.

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Angry_Casual wrote:

In D2, the issue was probably simply a lot less visible. The whole game was nothing but the same 5 acts ad nauseam (grinding in half a dozen specific areas) , so players that are put off by it were a lot more likely to have left before that. Add to that the immunities issue, and you can be certain only the players least affected by it were already left.

Wladicorist, don't feed the troll, there's no winning at that game.
Everybody knows she's intentionally adding insult to injury.
Everybody knows she's been doing this for ages.
Everybody knows she's purposefully phrasing the trolling in a way that avoids moderation. They only moderate the most blatant issues.
Everybody knows she's revelling in this kind of misery. There's no need to give her more ammo to grief you. She still won't get moderated, but at least you won't get probated in her stead.

i know :D
its just the arguments from him/her are the same all the time
"git gud" "dont die" "get better charakter"
while he/she probably rushing to 100 every league with a full group where its less possible to get one shotted since "targeting" except massive AoE
also the thing is that these people try to argue mostly with people that either dont play in a group means its 6 time less efficiently when it comes to exp/loot or dislike the death penalty for good reasons such as unexpected and unpredictable oneshots
while the arguments stay the same all the time
"gid gud" "dont die" etc.

I know its a meme by now, but the "just play hardcore" recommendation isn't stupid if u're dying too often in PoE.
U'll learn to play the game in a different way, play more careful and with more foresight/planning. That way u'll also learn how to design ur difficulty in the game.
Most ppl in SC don't realize that its often their own fault for getting oneshot, just bcz they're hellbent on running rare maps for example.
"Alc and Go" doesn't work 100% of the time, when ur character isnt strong enough for a double damage + crit map. It might work 95% of the time, but sometimes u get oneshot and lose hours of progress and then u're mad.
In HC however, 95% isnt good enough, so u'll ramp down ur difficulty to maybe running magic maps instead until u can live through rare maps.

With that in mind, u'll have a better understanding of what ur character is able to do or what might have killed u.
This will help surviving in SC, if u really care about it.

@OP: The 10% DP is there for a reason and u realized that urself, so don't try to change the game, but change the way u play around the problem :)

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I_NO wrote:

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yamface wrote:

You know it's less funny and more cringy when you're trying to meme i_no when he's the one that has multiple lv100s and you have... 0

dw it's funnier :x apparently the ground likes him

prove me youre playing alone up to lvl 100 and do 40/40 alone without any group play
then we can talk
otherwise you have no point

I stream and solo and I do 40/40 entirely alone I am just a good average player probably should work on that huh but you can keep countering for some unknown reason it won't make you die any less or make you play better apparently.

The only way to die is if you purposely do it for the sake of doing it if you can't accept that; You won't get level 100 faster :(

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drklrd wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

I stream and solo and I do 40/40 entirely alone I am just a good average player probably should work on that huh but you can keep countering for some unknown reason it won't make you die any less or make you play better apparently.

The only way to die is if you purposely do it for the sake of doing it if you can't accept that; You won't get level 100 faster :(

I don't think anyone believes you're an average player LOL

I play a lot that's my only thing that's ''unique'' other then that I'm just another player casual people or the one whos trying his hardest to counter thinking you need to be a god good gamer with no life haha please you don't need any of that.

You just need to know how to play and apparently most don't and like the ground and think they can counter in a forum when it's not going to help them improve there ability play better doesn't help he thinks you need a group for level 100 or a group for 40/40 when you just need a good char.

But most refuse to believe that and go THE HC ARE TAKING OVER :_;;;;; oh nooo hes insulting me I must counter somehow with a meme even though it doesn't work most of the time in the end it doesn't change anything you're still on the ground while writing on the forum for some reason.

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I_NO wrote:

I play a lot that's my only thing that's ''unique'' other then that I'm just another player casual people or the one whos trying his hardest to counter thinking you need to be a god good gamer with no life haha please you don't need any of that.

You just need to know how to play and apparently most don't and like the ground and think they can counter in a forum when it's not going to help them improve there ability play better doesn't help he thinks you need a group for level 100 or a group for 40/40 when you just need a good char.

But most refuse to believe that and go THE HC ARE TAKING OVER :_;;;;; oh nooo hes insulting me I must counter somehow with a meme even though it doesn't work most of the time in the end it doesn't change anything you're still on the ground while writing on the forum for some reason.

I can second I_NO here. 40/40 is not a thing if you have knowledge and some skill, but more important the patience to get the grindy challenges.

Also getting to level 100 is as she said: you need a good char, build and gear and skill. I really was going for 100 in Harvest: I had a good build, I got great items (not mirror tier, but great) and was doing very well with one to three deaths after 97, most to bad dcs.

Somewhere in 98 with 70% something struck me: it was pointless. All pointless. The moment I realized I was going to get to level 100 it all lost meaning. 100 and then what? I can brag in the forums?

I have several reasons to say that the level 100 pursuit and bragging is pointless, but I will not go deep here.

Here there are two things: one, people have the false impression that only no lifers get good itens because they have more time to get good itens. When you have less time to play you must play smart and not like streamers.

Second the psychological aspect of exp loss is the major factor people are against it. The game could be in a way that instead of losing you don't gain. It's less frustrating and achieves the same. But that's my opinion.

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Sadaukar wrote:

I know its a meme by now, but the "just play hardcore" recommendation isn't stupid if u're dying too often in PoE.
U'll learn to play the game in a different way, play more careful and with more foresight/planning. That way u'll also learn how to design ur difficulty in the game.

Funny, I've made argument over the years for the pro-current-XP-penalty folk to go play HC, but instead they seem more interested in defending status quo of softcore modes against people who don't like it the way it is, and haven't liked the way it is for years now.

If you like HC mode, then why are you playing softcore leagues? Or: if a significant portion of players don't enjoy playing HC modes, then why it is kinda forced upon them at levels 95+.

I feel discussion of XP penalty always goes in circles, partly because it comes down to actual preferences of people and they differ. It's not about player skill alone but player preferences on enjoying a game, which is why gid gut doesn't cut it.

For the record, I'm not for getting rid of XP penalty entirely. I just feel it is overtly punishing in it's current form at highest character levels, making a HC feel for playing even in a SC mode.

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vmt80 wrote:

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Sadaukar wrote:

I know its a meme by now, but the "just play hardcore" recommendation isn't stupid if u're dying too often in PoE.
U'll learn to play the game in a different way, play more careful and with more foresight/planning. That way u'll also learn how to design ur difficulty in the game.

Funny, I've made argument over the years for the pro-current-XP-penalty folk to go play HC, but instead they seem more interested in defending status quo of softcore modes against people who don't like it the way it is, and haven't liked the way it is for years now.

If you like HC mode, then why are you playing softcore leagues? Or: if a significant portion of players don't enjoy playing HC modes, then why it is kinda forced upon them at levels 95+.

I feel discussion of XP penalty always goes in circles, partly because it comes down to actual preferences of people and they differ. It's not about player skill alone but player preferences on enjoying a game, which is why gid gut doesn't cut it.

For the record, I'm not for getting rid of XP penalty entirely. I just feel it is overtly punishing in it's current form at highest character levels, making a HC feel for playing even in a SC mode.

To answer ur question for me personal. I enjoy both modes for what they are.
I play HC if I have enough time for a slower/more dedicated way of playing.
If I'm very busy with work and I'm not able to play very good after a long day at work, I tend to play SC because I know I'll make more mistakes.
Depends on the Leagues as well, if I feel like its more fun for a specific mode.
Quins ethical league for example is a blast after playing 2 leagues SC only.
It's an even slower and somewhat harder way to progress through the game that I enjoy very much.

Only thing I said was basically, that playing HC will definitely improve ur way of dealing with certain problems in PoE.
Do I die in SC more than in HC? Sure thing, but the punishment is way less so its calculated risk.
Do I know what killed me? 99% yes I do and its my fault most of the times.

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Sadaukar wrote:

I know its a meme by now, but the "just play hardcore" recommendation isn't stupid if u're dying too often in PoE.

I only play hardcore offline. Online, there's no way to guarantee I won't be killed as a result of a wonky connexion, ISP maintenance, DDoS attack, or any other factor that is completely and utterly out of my control.

If I want to do HC, then it has to be under circumstances where I die solely because of my failings, not because of outside factors.

Every time I die in game I die a bit in real life. That's just so... Infuriating? Sad?

I know a lot of times I die - that's my fault. But there are deaths that just happen unexpected. And you don't know if that's you or the game. This patch there are crashes. Few times I died while game was desding to close or not(crashed).

Loosing loot? Well. That's a different story.
Loosing xp on lvl 97+? I begin to hate my life and GGG.

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4lin wrote:

like a officially player i declare officially dead game and pure afk bots farmers

All of you people still posting here are wasting your time. It has been declared - maybe you all missed it? It's official.