The giant Elephant in the room currently (Expros take on meta)
" True, but days or weeks of grinding as your main job translates to months of grinding if this isn't your job. Also, he/she said "can", not "do". Doesn't necessarily apply to all builds. Remove Horticrafting station storage limit.
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" The thing is I don't think it's about time/grind, but about efficiency and knowledge. For example, I was following some guide in Delirium and the author stated there that he played this build for 30 hours that League, killing Sirus, yada, yada. Meanwhile it took a casual scrub like me 100 hours to get to Sirus that League. Some people reach red maps on the first or the second day of the League. It takes me about 3-4 weeks. |
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" it's your choice what content you do. and what content to miss out. on topic: what shags said: for good builds to exist there must be bad builds. poe became successful because it allows a player to fail. horribly! if that doesn't trigger the will to improve on the player, it's not the right game for him. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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" The SSFHC China race would like to have a word with you. ~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
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D4 will be packed with real money gambling mechanics, endless paid “expansions,” and bad employee/customer treatment by ActiBlizz. It’s a major title from a scummy AAA American developer/publisher - it’s going to be crappy and manipulative.
Yes, I am incredibly cynical about this stuff these days. Blizzard is awful and their games will be awful until something changes in the industry as a whole. Please do not support titles built on employee abuse or predatory, dishonest monetization. Maybe we’ll be shocked and D4 will be a good game without those anchors weighing it down. It still won’t “replace” PoE; it’ll just be another option. And nobody will care what the “most skilled” gamers play because they’ve always been far less relevant than they tell themselves. This community has a lot of serious players but it ain’t no Atlas Shrugged elitist fantasy. We're all in this leaky boat together, people.
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" Lol holy shit everything ok at home bro? D4 will obliterate PoE in every measurable category from sales, to concurrent players, to twitch views, to retention numbers. I dont think people realize what a fart in the wind PoE is compared to Diablo. We are talking Millions upon Millions vs. at most a few hundred thousand globally. Its not even a competition. I mean its like if the Kansas City Chiefs played your local High School Football Team. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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It is rather like a baby elephant....from space...
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" Basically, I disagree with some of your points. There are really only some very simple things to consider: Diablo is a much more "multiplayer friendly" game than PoE can ever be. It's also much more "casual friendly" in terms of players reaching "goals." PoE is a much more complex "RPG" game than Diablo can be. It's much less "casual friendly" and requires more player investment in order to achieve "goals." That's it. The rest is really just "fluff." It may matter a bit in the initial rush, but gamers are largely "genre" players, for the most part, in their long-term gaming habits. They'll gravitate towards the above. There is, of course, going to be that "Diablo Nostalgia Rush." Everyone wants to hear "Stay awhile and listen" after all... Diablo 3's initial design proved that wasn't strong enough to retain players through the initial horrors of the "Auction House" and the abuses of the RMT system. Too ambitious, too soon, too much of a cherished franchise to pimp out like that... Does PoE's purposeful stranglehold over "gear" matter? Meh... Not really. GGG's profits are still doing just fine and players have grown accustomed to it. Rest assured, D4 will have its own "grind" there. They're too different to really compare in that way. They will eventually "co-exist" just fine. There's enough room in the market for both to survive. D4 will most definitely draw away many PoE players, but one can virtually guarantee that the ones that spend money in PoE buying MTX are going to come back and spend money for PoE's MTX... And, there's always that "dissatisfied" base of players that will not enjoy that new experience, too. " "Pro?" lol? PS: From what I remember, D4 is going to have even more multiplayer support and a RMT system for cosmetics and perhaps some QoL features. I haven't checked on its dev status recently. I would expect it to be rather monetization-heavy, though... |
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" Just like D3 is obliterating POE now with a lot lesser Twitch views and pretty much no endgame content even though they had all the opportunities and resources in the world to improve the game over the years and keep adding content? Especially knowing that their competitors, a small 'indie' company has a game with a lot richer content and keeps adding more every 3 months? Even D2 has more viewers than D3 on Twitch now. I do hope that D4 will turn great and become another alternative in this genre, but somehow Blizzard keeps proving that they have a real talent for f-ing things up even when you think that it's impossible to f- things up even more. |
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I stopped when OP pretended knowing every single way to play any single build andddd skills and how good or bad they were.
Thank you for wasting my time, I really expected to read a pro when I saw the title :D :^) :) Hf :)
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